04 Dec 2005 12:08:15

healthynutritionguy

Energy Drinks

Anyone into energy drinks has found that many companies advertise their so-called products as "Energy Drinks". I've found that many of them lack for better terms energy beyond the inclusion of sugars and unhealthy carbs. So what is the hype about? Well, the truth is, we are now a society that is mostly passive in nature and very inactive in terms of physical fitness and health. People are looking for that "extra" boost in the mid-day to quell their "over fed" tummies from lunch. Looking at many restaurants' menus, very few share their calorie information openly. This is mostly due to their "platters" having sometimes up to 2000 calories for one meal, and most of them are over 1500 calories for one meal. The consistence of carbs in the meals render a person completely out of energy come 2pm...thus why people are seeking that "BOOST" I've tried several products to include Red Bull, Gatorade, Liftoff (Herbalife), and several others not worth mentioning. The only drinks that we found healthy alternatives were Red Bull and Liftoff (Herbalife). Both these drinks provided an uplift of energy that was not caused by a "sugar" rush. Beyond energy, some drinks provided added benefits. One of these was Liftoff by Herbalife. This product is packed with natural herbs and vitamins which not only provide one with energy, but also with mental focus! How do you get mental focus out of a drink? Well, Herbalife's proprietary blend of ingredients actually does that. You will find pro volleyball athletes sponsored by this drink. Elaine Young for instance admits that her performance in this past summer's tournaments were attributed by her use of Liftoff. Get more information about Liftoff at: http://www.getliftoffnow.com/thenutrishopand http://www.thenutrishop.com/Herbalife_Liftoff_p/h3151.htm Tony Independent Distributor .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. Empowering NetMarketers Since 1998 http://www.mlmtraining.net/gencash .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=.

04 Dec 2005 12:43:37

Mark Thorson

Re: Energy Drinks

healthynutritionguy wrote: > > Beyond energy, some drinks provided added benefits. One of these > was Liftoff by Herbalife. This product is packed with natural > herbs and vitamins which not only provide one with energy, but > also with mental focus! How do you get mental focus out of a > drink? Well, Herbalife's proprietary blend of ingredients > actually does that. No, it's caffeine. This stuff is packed with caffeine, which is responsible for the effects you feel. It's a drug effect. Here's a news item about the death of the founder of Herbalife, at age 44. Those herbs sure did him a lot of good! http://www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Herbalife/herbalife05.html http://www.rickross.com/reference/herbalife/herbalife9.html And here's two link pages to lots of information about Herbalife -- information that the Herbalife salespeople don't want you to know: http://www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Herbalife/herbalife00.html http://www.rickross.com/groups/herbalife.html And here's a ton of consumer complaints about Herbalife: http://www.ftc.gov/foia/herbalife.pdf Warning -- this is a 97-page PDF file.

05 Dec 2005 05:00:03

healthynutritionguy

Re: Energy Drinks

I've seen all the above web pages...none have any new information worth mentioning concerning Herbalife. As a matter of fact the team of scientists and nutritionists that are employed by Herbalife now are superior in many ways to the average scientist who works for other well known supplement companies. The claims made on the above website are old news. More importantly, Herbalife's current CEO is not like the rest, you are presently witnessing the rebirth of a company.... In terms of caffeine, you are right. Liftoff has alot of caffeine in it, as with many other energy drinks. Ones sensitivity to that must be recognized. However, the product also has many other helpful ingredients which facilitate energy production. I'll also question your over-emphasis on the founder's death at age 44. I did not however observe any mention that his parents died young also...perhaps a genetic problem before anything else? I will mention that there has been and are still distributors who are bad representatives of the company's ethos. Like with any sales based industry...haven't you been told about a product before and promised that this or that will happen? Perception of these promise destroys the good first. I'm not about to give you promises, nor will I tell you Herbalife is the solution to all in life. But, before taking supplements from other companies...I would strongly recommend that you look at other alternatives.....Herbalife. Find more info on Herbalife at: http://www.thenutrishop.com http://thenutrishop.blogspot.com You can become an Herbalife Distributor at: http://www.thenutrishop.com/Herbalife_work_from_home_business_opportunity_s/25.htm Tony Independent Distributor .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. Empowering NetMarketers Since 1998 http://www.mlmtraining.net/gencash .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=.

05 Dec 2005 07:43:29

Mark Thorson

Re: Energy Drinks

healthynutritionguy wrote: > > I've seen all the above web pages...none have any > new information worth mentioning concerning Herbalife. You want some newer stuff? No problem! Thanks for asking! Here's one about how easy it is to sell Herbalife: http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/selling_herbalife.html And another on the great people you'll meet: http://brian.carnell.com/archives/years/2002/03/000046.html Oooh! Lawsuit! Don't want that! http://www.mlmsurvivor.com/herbalawsuit.htm This guy doesn't seem to like Herbalife. Ask him why! http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/rants/herbalifescam.html

05 Dec 2005 12:58:07

healthynutritionguy

Re: Energy Drinks

Again, nothing seems new here all several years old, I think the newest stuff being 2002 from what I saw. Hey we're almost 2006! But like I had mentioned earlier, ... [Quote] "I will mention that there has been and are still distributors who are bad representatives of the company's ethos. Like with any sales based industry..."haven't you been told about a product before and promised that this or that will happen?" Perception of these promise destroys the good first." One distributor selling a scam doesn't make everyone, nor a company a scam. The company is legitimate, most distributors are honest salespeople earning an honest living. Just like any job in any industry....only a few make it to the top and earn more than the rest. Herbalife as a business is for some people, and definately not for all. I think that applies to anything in life. Regarding the sales, etc. I am at World Team status, did not purchase ANY inventory to make it to supervisor. A few months ago, I had spoken to an individual who was considering becoming a distributor. She had talked to someone else (another distributor) who had recommended to her to invest in inventory right away for a greater discount up front. She must have fell for the trap cause I never heard from her again. I'm completely against such an investment unless you have 1. The cash flow to support it 2. A KNOWN customer base already there for you to sell to. This is nothing more than simple business financing. So why do I sell Herbalife? I certainly don't have to...I have an MBA from BU. I do it because I enjoy the interaction with others, I believe in the products and in the company's sincere goals. Good luck in your endeavors my friend...I have nothing more to say to you. Find more info on Herbalife at: http://www.thenutrishop.com http://thenutrishop.blogspot.com You can become an Herbalife Distributor at: http://www.thenutrishop.com/Herbalife_work_from_home_business_opportu... Tony Independent Distributor .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. Empowering NetMarketers Since 1998 http://www.mlmtraining.net/gencash .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=. .=.

05 Dec 2005 17:56:24

Mark Thorson

Re: Energy Drinks

healthynutritionguy (Anthony Loignon) wrote: > > Again, nothing seems new here all several years old, I think the newest > stuff being 2002 from what I saw. Hey we're almost 2006! I haven't got anything from 2006, but stay tuned! I didn't realize there was so much interest in getting this information out into the newsgroups. Thanks for getting it started! The most recent stuff I've got is this, filed by Herbalife less than a month ago. See the original document here: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1180262/000095012905010672/v13806e10vq.htm Herbalife International and certain of its distributors have been named as defendants in a purported class action lawsuit filed July 16, 2003 in the Circuit Court of Ohio County in the State of West Virginia (Mey v. Herbalife International, Inc., et al). The complaint alleges that certain telemarketing practices of certain Herbalife International distributors violate the Telephone Consumer Protection Act, or TCPA, and seeks to hold Herbalife International vicariously liable for the practices of its distributors. More specifically, the plaintiffs’ complaint alleges that several of Herbalife International’s distributors used pre-recorded telephone messages and autodialers to contact prospective customers in violation of the TCPA’s prohibition of such practices. Herbalife International’s distributors are independent contractors and, if any such distributors in fact violated the TCPA, they also violated Herbalife’s policies, which require its distributors to comply with all applicable federal, state and local laws. The Company believes that it has meritorious defenses to the suit. Herbalife International and certain of its independent distributors have been named as defendants in a purported class action lawsuit filed February 17, 2005 in the Superior Court of California, County of San Francisco, and served on Herbalife International on March 14, 2005 (Minton v. Herbalife International, et al). The case has been transferred to the Los Angeles County Superior Court. The plaintiff is challenging the marketing practices of certain Herbalife International independent distributors and Herbalife International under various state laws prohibiting “endless chain schemes,” insufficient disclosure in assisted marketing plans, unfair and deceptive business practices, and fraud and deceit. The plaintiff alleges that the Freedom Group system operated by certain independent distributors of Herbalife International products places too much emphasis on recruiting and encourages excessively large purchases of product and promotional materials by distributors. The plaintiff also alleges that Freedom Group pressured distributors to disseminate misleading promotional materials. The plaintiff seeks to hold Herbalife International vicariously liable for the actions of its independent distributors and is seeking damages and injunctive relief. The Company believes that it has meritorious defenses to the suit. In February 2005, Herbalife voluntarily elected to temporarily withdraw its Sesame & Herb tablet product from the Israeli market. This product, which has been on the market since 1989, is sold only in Israel. Herbalife’s voluntary decision to temporarily withdraw this product accompanied the initiation of a review by the Israeli Ministry of Health (the “Israel MOH”) of a small number of anecdotal case reports of individuals having liver dysfunction who had also consumed Herbalife products. Herbalife scientists and medical doctors are closely cooperating with the Israel MOH to facilitate this ongoing review. In May 2005, the Israel MOH issued a press release stating that although their investigation was continuing, no causal link has been shown between the consumption of Herbalife products and liver function abnormalities. In addition, the Israel MOH requested that individuals consuming or intending to consume Herbalife products obtain liver function tests before and one month after beginning their use, and that persons with liver function disorders refrain from consuming dietary supplements. Independent analysis of Herbalife’s Israeli products has confirmed that Herbalife products do not contain any substances indicated by the Israel MOH as being of concern in relation to this small number of reported cases of liver dysfunction. The Company believes that Herbalife products are not the cause of these few reported anecdotal cases of liver dysfunction.