03 May 2008 20:53:33

umo

Kentucky Derby tragedy

The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of the Kentucky Derby.

03 May 2008 21:28:40

MAXdaAXEjd

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 3, 8:53=A0pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > the Kentucky Derby. not completely... if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well..

03 May 2008 22:59:01

wolfagain

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 3, 11:28 pm, MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle...@cox.net > wrote: > On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > > overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > > Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > > the Kentucky Derby. > > not completely... > > if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, > its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including > wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. Shades of RUFFIAN trying to beat males. Not a good idea in retrospect!

04 May 2008 08:40:18

Izheet Madroors

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

"MAXdaAXEjd" <johndaigle123@cox.net > wrote in message news:6c052925-b8ae-4b6c-b573-d66718e0834a@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > the Kentucky Derby. not completely... if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. Not quite on the level of Owen taking a header in KC, eh Max?

04 May 2008 15:18:46

T Block

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > the Kentucky Derby. I think Big Brown liked being wide out of the gate and clear of the other horses. Then he pulled over to them on his own terms with an angle on the first turn. And the ground he gave up being wide was little cost compared to a situation of being pushed close to the rail which upsets the delicate stride of a horse that tries to make ground early. It was surprising how strong he came on early on the final turn like maybe he could have been held even at that point. Then coming down the stretch in the lead he was working very hard but with the entire race measured well enough. After the race he was stomping and snorting victory with all the understanding and involvement that any human athlete would have. He then threw the jocky. And KD's ride was similar to a ride on 4 y.o. Private Terms in Boston where the horse was wide but clear all the way around. The ride on Big Brown was smooth early and hard late. Conserve energy early and no worry about giving up ground... Of course Eight Bells made a strong stretch run not being caught from behind but chasing the leader. With both front ankles breaking past the wire it has to be wondered if she just has trouble slowing down. And laying on the track she knew her life was over. In pain, feeling hopeless and sad but with some relief from shock, and waiting for the wolves. And with all the understanding and feeling and sadness that any human athlete would have...

04 May 2008 14:10:45

umo

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

Let's not get too carried away with the Big Brown hype . He is a nice horse but far from a super horse. Compared to Secretariat's winning Derby time of 1:59.40... Big Brown is a Clydesdale.

04 May 2008 15:26:39

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 4, 5:10 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Let's not get too carried away with the Big Brown hype . He is a nice > horse but far from a super horse. Compared to Secretariat's winning > Derby time of 1:59.40... Big Brown is a Clydesdale. I don't know if anyone is comparing him to Secretariat but Christ, give the horse some credit....he hasn't lost and hasn't come close to losing. Secretariat did get beat you know....4 times to be exact and 1 by DQ.......And his time of 2:01 and change is excellent time.......this is a damn good racehorse.

04 May 2008 22:34:00

shane

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

jottland@yahoo.com wrote in news:54dfde50-0532-4302-bde4-b68522c87324 @x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: > Big Brown is a Clydesdale. > I want this Clydesdale!!!!!!!! I think he has about $2 mill. in the bank now? ARE YOU THAT STUPID? ill take a frickin Donkey if he can put $2 mill. in my bank account.

05 May 2008 02:02:17

T Block

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

> Let's not get too carried away with the Big Brown hype . He is a nice > horse but far from a super horse. Compared to Secretariat's winning > Derby time of 1:59.40... Big Brown is a Clydesdale. I said that he conserved energy early, relatively avoided traffic, and worked very hard late. I said that the jockey rode him correctly enough. I did say that his move on the final turn was early and hard...and meant that to be understood as giving up lengths at the wire.

05 May 2008 10:20:28

Ozwald Mandias

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle123@cox.net > wrote: >On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely >> overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight >> Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of >> the Kentucky Derby. > >not completely... > >if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, >its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including >wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. "It's a sad part of the game!" You fucking idiot. What kind of game is it that forces animals to run their hearts out and kill themselves so we can wager on the outcome? Just another example of what nonsense horse racing is. Stupid fucking assholes go to the track and throw away their money on a jerkoff activity. I mean, you cannot even win in the long run, no matter how well you research the field. The house takes too big a cut of the pie, you moronic simpletons. Well, actually, the horse did not even kill herself. In their ultimate wisdom, those who revel in the 'sport' killed the horse, claiming it was kindness to do so. Fucking shit stains, all of you! Ozzie

05 May 2008 09:43:18

wolfagain

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 5, 11:20 am, Ozwald Mandias <ozzie...@hotmail.com > wrote: > MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle...@cox.net> wrote: > >On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > >> overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > >> Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > >> the Kentucky Derby. > > >not completely... > > >if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, > >its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including > >wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. > > "It's a sad part of the game!" You fucking idiot. What kind of game > is it that forces animals to run their hearts out and kill themselves > so we can wager on the outcome? Just another example of what > nonsense horse racing is. Stupid fucking assholes go to the track > and throw away their money on a jerkoff activity. I mean, you cannot > even win in the long run, no matter how well you research the field. > The house takes too big a cut of the pie, you moronic simpletons. > > Well, actually, the horse did not even kill herself. In their ultimate > wisdom, those who revel in the 'sport' killed the horse, claiming it was > kindness to do so. Fucking shit stains, all of you! > > Ozzie P.E.T.A Loon? Sure sounds like one! PETA wants CD to give them the 400K 2nd money and investigate everyone connected to this horse and race. They don't call them LOONS for nothing! Horse broke down trying to decelerate after the finish NOT during the actual race!

05 May 2008 10:47:59

Izheet Madroors

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

"Ozwald Mandias" <ozzieman@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:481f3245.11146359@news.individual.net... > MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle123@cox.net> wrote: > >>On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely >>> overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight >>> Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of >>> the Kentucky Derby. >> >>not completely... >> >>if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, >>its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including >>wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. > > "It's a sad part of the game!" You fucking idiot. What kind of game > is it that forces animals to run their hearts out and kill themselves > so we can wager on the outcome? Just another example of what > nonsense horse racing is. Stupid fucking assholes go to the track > and throw away their money on a jerkoff activity. I mean, you cannot > even win in the long run, no matter how well you research the field. > The house takes too big a cut of the pie, you moronic simpletons. > > Well, actually, the horse did not even kill herself. In their ultimate > wisdom, those who revel in the 'sport' killed the horse, claiming it was > kindness to do so. Fucking shit stains, all of you! > > Ozzie Lighten up, Francis.

05 May 2008 12:19:58

Baylee

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 5, 11:20=A0am, Ozwald Mandias <ozzie...@hotmail.com > wrote: > MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle...@cox.net> wrote: > >On May 3, 8:53=A0pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > >> overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > >> Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > >> the Kentucky Derby. > > >not completely... > > >if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, > >its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including > >wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. > > "It's a sad part of the game!" You fucking idiot. What kind of game > is it that forces animals to run their hearts out and kill themselves > so we can wager on the outcome? Just another example of what > nonsense horse racing is. Stupid fucking assholes go to the track > and throw away their money on a jerkoff activity. I mean, you cannot > even win in the long run, no matter how well you research the field. > The house takes too big a cut of the pie, you moronic simpletons. > > Well, actually, the horse did not even kill herself. In their ultimate > wisdom, those who revel in the 'sport' killed the horse, claiming it was > kindness to do so. Fucking shit stains, all of you! > > Ozzie I wonder .... if you don't like horse racing, which it appears in your message that you don't, why are you in this newsgroup and why are you watching it? Horses can break their legs in pastures, in a trailer, doing pretty much anything. You just don't hear about it as much because it's not on national TV. For being such large animals, they are incredibly fragile in their legs. And as for Eight Belles being euthanized, do you not understand she could not stand up? It was the kindest thing possible to free her from her pain & suffering. It would've been cruel to try to do anything else for her since that type of injury is catastrophic and fatal. You are the ignorant one in this group. Your message proves it. Eight Belles may have had a problem with slowing down too quickly, her ankle could've dislocated in the final turn when she started throwing her head and drifting out, we may never know. But at least she is not suffering any more she is not in pain and her suffering wasn't unnecessarily prolonged.

05 May 2008 12:24:27

Baylee

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 4, 4:10=A0pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Let's not get too carried away with the Big Brown hype . He is a nice > horse but far from a super horse. Compared to Secretariat's winning > Derby time of 1:59.40... Big Brown is a Clydesdale. Far from a super horse? With 3 starts under him going into the Kentucky Derby, and being in post 20, he beat ALL the odds to win that race. He probably ran an extra half mile being as far on the outside as he was, he had the longest trip. He is the best chance we've had in awhile for a Triple Crown winner and if he is a "Clydesdale" then tell me why EVERY SINGLE HORSE that faced him in the Derby is NOT going on to the Preakness?? EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT is skipping the Preakness. Be realistic. Curlin, that fantastic horse that won by nearly 8 lengths in the Dubai World Cup and was Horse of the Year last year, couldn't even win the Kentucky Derby off of only 3 previous starts. Big Brown deserves all the hype he is getting. If he'd had a shorter trip he could have come a *lot* closer to Secretariat's winning time then he did.

05 May 2008 13:51:12

umo

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

Big Brown is undoubtedly the best speed horse among a field of mediocre 3 year olds. A filly with two bum ankles outran a big field of glue factory candidates to finish second in the Derby before keeling over in the death throes of agony. If Big Brown wins the Triple Crown will it be because he is great or because his competition sucks? Time will tell. The smart money says there is a distance horse at Belmont Park; waiting quietly & patiently to kick Big Brown's ass at a mile and a half.

05 May 2008 14:05:48

Baylee

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 5, 3:51=A0pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Big Brown is undoubtedly the best speed horse among a field of > mediocre 3 year olds. A filly with two bum ankles outran a big field > of glue factory candidates to finish second in the Derby before > keeling over in the death throes of agony. If Big Brown wins the > Triple Crown will it be because he is great or because his competition > sucks? Time will tell. The smart money says there is a distance horse > at Belmont Park; waiting quietly & patiently to kick Big Brown's ass > at a mile and a half. Troll.

05 May 2008 15:37:05

umo

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

The Kentucky Derby could get bigger TV ratings than the Super Bowl if they adopt a few elements of the ancient Roman coliseum. For example, the winning horse should be allowed to drag the dead horse off the track.

05 May 2008 22:07:28

MAXdaAXEjd

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 3, 10:59=A0pm, wolfagain <w...@provide.net > wrote: > On May 3, 11:28 pm, MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle...@cox.net> wrote: > > > On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > > > overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > > > Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > > > the Kentucky Derby. > > > not completely... > > > if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, > > its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including > > wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. > > Shades of RUFFIAN trying to beat males. Not a good idea in retrospect! yea or running wiining colors in the derby..

06 May 2008 03:40:09

umo

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

Abolish the whip in horse racing. Stop medicating horses before races. Drugs mask pain during the race. Eight Belles would have pulled up a lot sooner if she had felt pain in her legs. The drugs in her system made her unaware of her ankle injury until the damage that caused her death had already been done,.

06 May 2008 06:03:39

Baylee

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 6, 5:40=A0am, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Abolish the whip in horse racing. Stop medicating horses before races. > Drugs mask pain during the race. Eight Belles would have pulled up a > lot sooner if she had felt pain in her legs. The drugs in her system > made her unaware of her ankle injury until the damage that caused her > death had already been done,. My bad, not a regular troll but a PETA one at that.

06 May 2008 10:50:08

umo

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

Horse racing is an anachronism in the 21st Century. Horse racing gained its popularity in the United States back when it was the only form of gambling in which degenerates could legally indulge their addiction without getting arrested and thrown in jail. Times have changed and horse racing reeks from the nostalgic stench of a bygone era. It belongs in the trash heap of history along with southern plantations and negro lawn jockeys. These days, degenerate gamblers can squander the family fortune on many other vices such as casinos games, sports betting and lottery tickets. Let's spare the future Ruffians, Barbaros and Eight Belles the horrible agony of broken bones and the equine indignity of summary execution.

06 May 2008 16:43:39

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 5, 12:20 pm, Ozwald Mandias <ozzie...@hotmail.com > wrote: > MAXdaAXEjd <johndaigle...@cox.net> wrote: > >On May 3, 8:53 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The impressive victory of Big Brown in the Derby was completely > >> overshadowed by the horrific, shocking and tragic death of Eight > >> Belles. This is the worst disaster in the entire 133 year history of > >> the Kentucky Derby. > > >not completely... > > >if you have watched horseracing as long as i have or like danzig has, > >its a sad part of the game, but it happens all the time, including > >wednesdays 10,000 claimer as well.. > > "It's a sad part of the game!" You fucking idiot. What kind of game > is it that forces animals to run their hearts out and kill themselves > so we can wager on the outcome? Just another example of what > nonsense horse racing is. Stupid fucking assholes go to the track > and throw away their money on a jerkoff activity. I mean, you cannot > even win in the long run, no matter how well you research the field. > The house takes too big a cut of the pie, you moronic simpletons. > > Well, actually, the horse did not even kill herself. In their ultimate > wisdom, those who revel in the 'sport' killed the horse, claiming it was > kindness to do so. Fucking shit stains, all of you! > > Ozzie One of those PETA nuts eh? Well I'm going out to get me a nice big half pound burger

06 May 2008 16:45:30

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 5, 3:24 pm, Baylee <rdorsey...@tx.rr.com > wrote: > On May 4, 4:10 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Let's not get too carried away with the Big Brown hype . He is a nice > > horse but far from a super horse. Compared to Secretariat's winning > > Derby time of 1:59.40... Big Brown is a Clydesdale. > > Far from a super horse? With 3 starts under him going into the > Kentucky Derby, and being in post 20, he beat ALL the odds to win that > race. He probably ran an extra half mile being as far on the outside > as he was, he had the longest trip. He is the best chance we've had > in awhile for a Triple Crown winner and if he is a "Clydesdale" then > tell me why EVERY SINGLE HORSE that faced him in the Derby is NOT > going on to the Preakness?? EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT is skipping the > Preakness. Be realistic. Curlin, that fantastic horse that won by > nearly 8 lengths in the Dubai World Cup and was Horse of the Year last > year, couldn't even win the Kentucky Derby off of only 3 previous > starts. > > Big Brown deserves all the hype he is getting. If he'd had a shorter > trip he could have come a *lot* closer to Secretariat's winning time > then he did. The only bad thing about Big Brown winning the TC is that he'll probably be retired and never get to face Curlin.

07 May 2008 04:37:42

Re: Kentucky Derby tragedy

On May 6, 1:50 pm, umo <shor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Horse racing is an anachronism in the 21st Century. Horse racing > gained its popularity in the United States back when it was the only > form of gambling in which degenerates could legally indulge their > addiction without getting arrested and thrown in jail. Times have > changed and horse racing reeks from the nostalgic stench of a bygone > era. It belongs in the trash heap of history along with southern > plantations and negro lawn jockeys. These days, degenerate gamblers > can squander the family fortune on many other vices such as casinos > games, sports betting and lottery tickets. Let's spare the future > Ruffians, Barbaros and Eight Belles the horrible agony of broken bones > and the equine indignity of summary execution. Well guess what dumbass....PETA has NO SHOT of putting an end to horseracing...less of a shot than when they demanded the GB Packers change their name to the Pickers. (for fruit pickers,or vegetable pickers or whatever the their twisted logic was) ....I think I'll have another burger today or maybe a nice steak for dinner.