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| 05 May 2008 07:10:36 |
| ChaseMartin |
| 4 ball mills siteswaps |
this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't make it work. Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly even the 531 still feels shaky for me. For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. thanks! -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 09:18:36 |
| Ameron Rosvall |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > > this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs > of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they > felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't > make it work. > > Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly > even the 531 still feels shaky for me. > > For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. > > thanks! > How is your ss:4 millsmess? It would probably help if you practised entering and exiting the pattern in different ways. Try going into mills from 71 (shower) or some other basic four-object siteswap. -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 15:19:23 |
| ChaseMartin |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
> How is your ss:4 millsmess? It would probably help if you practised > entering and exiting the pattern in different ways. Try going into mills > from 71 (shower) or some other basic four-object siteswap. Heh, I actually suck at that too. The best way I have of entering it is making a box sort of throw, with one hand throwing a stacked multiplex, and then running it. I can also enter from a fountain by first making 4 outside throws, but I'm clueless on how to enter it from anything else. -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 18:24:44 |
| Dreamjuggler |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > > this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs > of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they > felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't > make it work. > > Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly > even the 531 still feels shaky for me. > > For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. > > thanks! > Before I started 4mm siteswaps I did some rounds with 5- I don`t know if it`s easier, but in my case it helped a lot. Beside this, any siteswap- mm combination is a hard trick so be patient. :-) DJ -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 19:22:19 |
| Le_lemGo |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
Dreamjuggler wrote: > > ChaseMartin wrote: > > > > this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs > > of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they > > felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't > > make it work. > > > > Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly > > even the 531 still feels shaky for me. > > > > For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. > > > > thanks! > > > > Before I started 4mm siteswaps I did some rounds with 5- I don`t know if > it`s easier, but in my case it helped a lot. Beside this, any siteswap- mm > combination is a hard trick so be patient. > > :-) > > DJ > Same here, I had my first rounds of 534mm after practising 5b mm. I had my 4b mm quite consistent too, I think that is a prerequisite... or not? lemGo -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 20:38:25 |
| Dreamjuggler |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
This is a pattern I found useful: l over r, l hand throw l under r, l hand throw r over l, r hand throw r under l, r hand throw and so on...(name?) HTH DJ -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 02:00:54 |
| popstar_dave |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > > this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs > of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they > felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't > make it work. > > Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly > even the 531 still feels shaky for me. > > For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. > > thanks! > A few thoughts. For some reason, I find 534 MM easier than the standard 4 MM. I just get less collisions. One thing to note with 552 MM - if you do the two fives as the outside throw and the underarm throw, you basically end up with a four ball Burke's Barrage. Cheers, Dave -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 02:03:23 |
| ChaseMartin |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
Dreamjuggler wrote: > > This is a pattern I found useful: > > l over r, l hand throw > l under r, l hand throw > r over l, r hand throw > r under l, r hand throw > and so on...(name?) > > HTH > > DJ > > > Sounds like a 423 to me. Is it with 3 balls? -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 02:07:42 |
| popstar_dave |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > > > How is your ss:4 millsmess? It would probably help if you practised > > entering and exiting the pattern in different ways. Try going into mills > > from 71 (shower) or some other basic four-object siteswap. > > Heh, I actually suck at that too. The best way I have of entering it is > making a box sort of throw, with one hand throwing a stacked multiplex, > and then running it. I can also enter from a fountain by first making 4 > outside throws, but I'm clueless on how to enter it from anything else. My 4 ball MM enterances: 4 outside throws from the fountain Fountain - > RH collect -> RH under left arm stacked duplex ([6x4x],[53])gap 7171717171916131 7531 Cheers, Dave -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 03:36:41 |
| ChaseMartin |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > > this month I've finally tackled the 4 ball mills, and tonight I got runs > of about 12 catches with the 534. I tried a little 633 and 552, and they > felt completely awful. Also tried a 540 in a 3 ball mills and couldn't > make it work. > > Any thoughts on how to do some of the easier mills siteswaps? Honestly > even the 531 still feels shaky for me. > > For the record, I use the underarm throw for anything 5 or higher. > > thanks! > By the way, that should say that I tried a 504, not a 540, since that doesn't make sense lol. -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 06:47:56 |
| Dreamjuggler |
| Re: 4 ball mills siteswaps |
ChaseMartin wrote: > Sounds like a 423 to me. Is it with 3 balls? Yes, http://www.retothejuggler.ch/videos/rtj03.mpgin this old (?) clip I`m doing it with 4 as well. DJ -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |