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| 05 May 2008 16:06:27 |
| toneboy |
| connected rings? |
Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly an overlapping figure of 8?) Im going to try it out tonight ! Ill let you guys know how i get on I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 connected up, then detach them upon catching it and back into the usual patterns. I know the velcro would possibly make the ring wobble in the air, but i cant imagine it beign too bad ! I was just curious if anyone has had any similar ideas? tone xxxx -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 17:35:43 |
| Jay Linn |
| Re: connected rings? |
On Mon, 05 May 2008 17:06:27 +0100, toneboy <tony830@hotmail.com.nospam.com > wrote: > Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly > an overlapping figure of 8?) > > Im going to try it out tonight ! Ill let you guys know how i get on > > I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 > connected up, then detach > them upon catching it and back into the usual patterns. > > I know the velcro would possibly make the ring wobble in the air, but i > cant imagine it beign too bad ! > > I was just curious if anyone has had any similar ideas? Nope. Definitely, categorically, unarguably never been thought of before. Congratulations on your inspiration. Oh no - hang on a moment! That's all nonsense. Loads of people have stuck props together, and the premier current example is r.j's very own Norbi, recently seen at York and Nottingham with his triple rings exquisitely sellotaped together. There have also been numerous attempts to explore rings which are, er, square/triangular/whatever; clubs with three handles and what passes for a body in the middle; and lots of other outlandish ideas. These ideas tend to fall by the wayside because the existing trimvirate of balls, ring, clubs respectively exhibit three, two, and one axes of symmetry each, and are therefore arguably pretty close to the ideal shapes for objects with varying degrees of symmetry. That all doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying to innovate and invent, but there are very few ideas that haven't already been had. -- Jay Linn E pur si muove. |
| 05 May 2008 20:10:51 |
| Aidan |
| Re: connected rings? |
Jay Linn wrote: > > On Mon, 05 May 2008 17:06:27 +0100, toneboy > <tony830@hotmail.com.nospam.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly > > an overlapping figure of 8?) > > > > Im going to try it out tonight ! Ill let you guys know how i get on > > > > I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 > > connected up, then detach > > them upon catching it and back into the usual patterns. > > > > I know the velcro would possibly make the ring wobble in the air, but i > > cant imagine it beign too bad ! > > > > I was just curious if anyone has had any similar ideas? > > Nope. Definitely, categorically, unarguably never been thought of before. > Congratulations on your inspiration. > > Oh no - hang on a moment! That's all nonsense. Loads of people have stuck > props together, and the premier current example is r.j's very own Norbi, > recently seen at York and Nottingham with his triple rings exquisitely > sellotaped together. > > There have also been numerous attempts to explore rings which are, er, > square/triangular/whatever; clubs with three handles and what passes for a > body in the middle; and lots of other outlandish ideas. These ideas tend > to fall by the wayside because the existing trimvirate of balls, ring, > clubs respectively exhibit three, two, and one axes of symmetry each, and > are therefore arguably pretty close to the ideal shapes for objects with > varying degrees of symmetry. > > That all doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying to innovate and invent, > but there are very few ideas that haven't already been had. > balls and rings both have an infinite number of axes of symmetry (arguably clubs do too). Maybe you mean 3, 2 and 1 dimensions :) Aidan. -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 20:41:43 |
| Greg Phillips |
| Re: connected rings? |
Aidan wrote: > Jay Linn wrote: > >[...] These ideas tend > > to fall by the wayside because the existing trimvirate of balls, ring, > > clubs respectively exhibit three, two, and one axes of symmetry each, and > > are therefore arguably pretty close to the ideal shapes for objects with > > varying degrees of symmetry. > > balls and rings both have an infinite number of axes of symmetry (arguably > clubs do too). Maybe you mean 3, 2 and 1 dimensions :) Actually, I think Jay meant "principal axis of rotation." A ball has one, and rings and clubs have two. Any object with three (different) principal axes of rotation will have one axis that is inherently unstable --- and any object that isn't essentially a sphere, disc (ring), or cylinder (club) will have three. Try flipping a cigar box about each of the three axes perpendicular to its faces. You'll see that it spins nicely about the shortest and longest axes, but is wildly unstable about the middle axis. Why this is true is left as an exercise for the reader :-). Greg -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 05 May 2008 22:15:00 |
| Emman |
| Re: connected rings? |
I tried it, don't try with only 2 glued together it freacking hurts to juggle. 3 glued together doesn't hurt as much tho. Emman, who cares for your hands. -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 03:54:41 |
| Michael Karas |
| Re: connected rings? |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCTiSVQqUo 0:34 to 0:40 -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 09:52:27 |
| taldeital |
| Re: connected rings? |
toneboy ha scritto: > Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly > an overlapping figure of 8?) i'm quite sure that i've seen them elsewhere (on a juggling video perhaps), but.. ohw, i can't remember where! hmmm, maybe could be "cooking fat"... or something about rings :) i'll check it out! > I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 > connected up, then detach > them upon catching it and back into the usual patterns. yeah, it's a cool idea! velcro rulez! :D detachable rings has millions ways to be juggled... i think you could also try to connect 3 rings and try out a 3 rings routine with tosses and manipulations. Let us know! bye! taldè. |
| 06 May 2008 10:15:35 |
| Jon Peat |
| Re: connected rings? |
I managed to create a new and innovative juggling prop simply by sellotaping three juggling balls together to make, er, a larger juggling ball. Much fun was had.... -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 13:49:16 |
| jani |
| Re: connected rings? |
Jon Peat wrote: > I managed to create a new and innovative juggling prop simply by > sellotaping three juggling balls together to make, er, a larger juggling > ball. > Much fun was had.... I've been thinking of glueing together 15 or so tennisballs in the shape of a ring. But then I thought about a squirrel or something and the "brilliant" idea went away. jani |
| 06 May 2008 10:49:41 |
| lynne |
| Re: connected rings? |
Jon Peat wrote: > > > I managed to create a new and innovative juggling prop simply by > sellotaping three juggling balls together to make, er, a larger juggling > ball. > Much fun was had.... > Ahh! reminds me of several games of 'volleywhatevercanbecobbledtogetheroversomeconvenientfixture'. improv. is great! Lynne -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |
| 06 May 2008 11:26:53 |
| Little Paul |
| Re: connected rings? |
On 2008-05-05, toneboy <tony830@hotmail.com.nospam.com > wrote: > Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly > an overlapping figure of 8?) > > Im going to try it out tonight ! Ill let you guys know how i get on So far everyone in this thread has jumped up and down and said "it's been done before, it's not new" with the implication of "it's not worth your time to bother" To which I say "bollocks". I don't want you coming away from this thread disheartened, and then never playing with the idea. Just because a prop has been explored before, it doesn't mean it's not worth exploring again. So go for it! It's up to you wether you seek out examples of what others have done before, or explore it on your own ground and reinvent some wheels. I'd personally do a bit of both. Re-invent those wheels then seek out inspiration from what others have done. Even if you don't come up with anything earth shatteringly new, you may find that the "play with it" stage throws up some ideas that cross over into other props. > I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 > connected up, then detach them upon catching it and back into the usual > patterns. > > I know the velcro would possibly make the ring wobble in the air, but i > cant imagine it beign too bad ! You could take out that wobble by carefully positioning a second piece of velcro on the opposite side of the ring to balance it out. -Paul -- paulseward.com - a photo a day for 2008 100jugglers.org - 100 pieces of signed juggling promotional material |
| 06 May 2008 21:03:24 |
| Arimane |
| Re: connected rings? |
toneboy wrote: > > Has anyone tried gluing 2 rings together to make a fig of 8 (Or possibly > an overlapping figure of 8?) > > Im going to try it out tonight ! Ill let you guys know how i get on > > I was also thinking maybe using velcro instead of glue so i could throw 2 > connected up, then detach > them upon catching it and back into the usual patterns. > > I know the velcro would possibly make the ring wobble in the air, but i > cant imagine it beign too bad ! > > I was just curious if anyone has had any similar ideas? > > > tone xxxx > I've tried to do that few months ago,But I didn't like how they came out with glue,so i give up. the velcro doesn't look bad,but is it stable? -- ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==---- |