03 Oct 2003 12:37:49
LIBERATOR
HERB PEREZ mastering basics

http://www.golddvd.com/bio.html?1049731545453

Nice Solid story. Both me & Herb agree Superfoot Wallace has great
understanding of "accuracy" not to mention has great accuracy by that
understanding. When you only have one leg to work with, you have to
master tuning it accurately. Superfoot did this, and I feel Superfoot
could enhance a lot of WTF/USTU fighters understanding thus achieving
better accuracy. Herb has a great video series out with Juan Moreno,
anyone who wants to progress to levels of "untouchability" in fighting
should get their videos.
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Herb Perez 1988 Male Co-Competitor of the Year

In 1988, Herb Perez made the biggest mistake of his life. The
then-28-year-old tae kwon do stylist was poised to become one of
America's first gold medalists in Olympic tae kwon do. But he made one
slight mental error and it cost him a chance at any kind of medal.
Perez had taken home a gold medal at the Pan American Tae Kwon Do
Championships in 1985, '86, '87 and '88, and won additional gold
medals at the 1986 United States Olympic Festival and 1987 World Cup.
But at the U.S. tae kwon do team eliminations in 1988, he lost his
final match, and with it, the opportunity to compete on America's
first Olympic tae kwon do team in Seoul, South Korea. Although Perez
can find no excuse to fully justify his defeat that day, he admits he
was distracted after his close friend and teammate was beaten in the
eliminations. "I was still upset by that, and was out of sorts when I
went into the ring," Perez says. "I missed my opportunity to go to
Seoul." Perez then had a big decision to make. At 28, was it
worth training for another four years in the hope of gaining a berth
on the 1992 U.S. Olympic tae kwon do team? Perez decided it was worth
it, and he channeled his frustration at losing into a four-year
winning streak which culminated in 1992 with Perez atop a victory
platform in Barcelona, Spain a gold medal draped around his neck. At
32, Perez was the "old man" of the '92 U.S. Olympic TKD team.
Obviously, however, his age did not prove to be a disadvantage. "There
was a 37-year-old wrestler, and all the tennis players are older these
days,"Perez notes. " As far as tae kwon do goes, I look at it from
another angle. I've been on the national team for seven years. I've
been captain of the team for four. There isn't a middleweight in the
country who can beat me right now. It's not that I'm too old; they're
all too young." Perez was raised in New York City, where he quickly
discovered that fighting skills were necessary to survive in his
neighborhood. He became enamored with tae kwon do after reading the
book The Flying Tigers, which features a martial artist as a central
character. "The character had all these really great attributes and
abilities, and I really identified with him," Perez recalls. Not long
after that, Perez "just wandered into a tae kwon do school" in
Hoboken, New Jersey, and his martial arts career took off. Studying
under Ki Chung Kim, Perez learned all he could about the Korean art.
He also improved his endurance by studying full-contact karate under
former professional kickboxer Paul Vizzio. In addition, Perez traveled
to South Korea several times to study and improve his technique. "The
combination of quality tae kwon do training and full-contact training
has helped me become better than any other middleweight in the history
of America, and maybe any other tae kwon do stylist other than (1988
Olympic heavyweight champion) Jimmy Kim,"Perez asserts. Perez claims
hard work, more than talent, got him where he is today. "I'm not
particularly talented, but I work three times harder than anyone else
in my division," says Perez, who won the United States' only tae kwon
do gold medal at the '92 Games. "And I work smarter. I don't spend
much time jumping, flying or spinning. I do very basic techniques. "If
I could think of somebody similar, it would have to be (former
full-contact karate champion) Bill Wallace," Perez adds. "Bill Wallace
only had one good leg his leftand everybody knew that he only did
front-leg kicks. But it didn't matter they still couldn't beat him
because he did his techniques so well. It's just a matter of being
confident with the techniques you have, and working hard enough to
make them work."Perez claims there are three keys to victory:
patience, perseverance and determination. Perez demonstrated his
patience and perseverance by training for four additional years just
to reach the 1992 Olympics, and his determination then carried him
through the competition to the gold medal It is because of these
qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
Co-Competitor of the Year.


04 Oct 2003 14:38:49
Rue The Day
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

jidokwanXXX@yahoo.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<aa78328.0310031137.2dc74cce@posting.google.com >...

...snip...

> It is because of these
> qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
> Co-Competitor of the Year.

Ironic that it was 1992. Because the very next year is when people
woke up and realized that Tae Kwon Do and all other traditional
martial arts were a gigantic load of horseshit.


04 Oct 2003 22:00:43
LIBERATOR
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

ruetheday@outgun.com (Rue The Day) wrote in message news:<a44a8c58.0310041338.18e96fe2@posting.google.com >...
> jidokwanXXX@yahoo.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<aa78328.0310031137.2dc74cce@posting.google.com>...
>
> ...snip...
>
> > It is because of these
> > qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
> > Co-Competitor of the Year.
>
> Ironic that it was 1992. Because the very next year is when people
> woke up and realized that Tae Kwon Do and all other traditional
> martial arts were a gigantic load of horseshit.

Well you being the spoofing liberator obsessee that you are, I know
you won't fight me or anyone from Chos because you know the end result
will be your hospitalization.

Rick Roufus won't fight us, the Gracies did fight us and lost severely
thus abided to Jim Lowe organizing their scripted loss against
Sakubura striking them. So basically the Gracies willingly allowed
themselves to be made "null" based on all their claims of striking not
capable, because they fought a TKD master that they could not touch
and were in fact knocked around like little bitches.

So you until you fight me or someoen from the WTF/USTU and beat us,
you're just written off. Any questions?


05 Oct 2003 08:44:16
Rue The Day
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

jidokwanXXX@yahoo.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<aa78328.0310042100.271c665e@posting.google.com >...
> ruetheday@outgun.com (Rue The Day) wrote in message news:<a44a8c58.0310041338.18e96fe2@posting.google.com>...
> > jidokwanXXX@yahoo.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<aa78328.0310031137.2dc74cce@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > > It is because of these
> > > qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
> > > Co-Competitor of the Year.
> >
> > Ironic that it was 1992. Because the very next year is when people
> > woke up and realized that Tae Kwon Do and all other traditional
> > martial arts were a gigantic load of horseshit.
>
> Well you being the spoofing liberator obsessee that you are, I know
> you won't fight me or anyone from Chos because you know the end result
> will be your hospitalization.

Where are you guys located? If it's nearby, I'd be up for some
sparring.

> Rick Roufus won't fight us,

Proof? Under what rules? TKD point sparring rules with no kicks to
the legs or punches to the face at the insistance of the TKD people?
I highly doubt Roufus would be afraid of any TKD bum in a real
kickboxing fight.

> the Gracies did fight us and lost severely
> thus abided to Jim Lowe organizing their scripted loss against
> Sakubura striking them. So basically the Gracies willingly allowed
> themselves to be made "null" based on all their claims of striking not
> capable, because they fought a TKD master that they could not touch
> and were in fact knocked around like little bitches.

Please provide proof that your TKD "master" knocked out a Gracie. I'd
be pretty fucking careful about making an incorrect allegation like
that lest a bunch of them show at Cho's school and make a mockery of
him in front of his students.

> So you until you fight me or someoen from the WTF/USTU and beat us,
> you're just written off. Any questions?

Again, under what rules?


06 Oct 2003 12:13:20
yurt
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

LIBERATOR wrote:

> ruetheday@outgun.com (Rue The Day) wrote in message
> news:<a44a8c58.0310041338.18e96fe2@posting.google.com>...
>> jidokwanXXX@yahoo.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
>> news:<aa78328.0310031137.2dc74cce@posting.google.com>...
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> > It is because of these
>> > qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
>> > Co-Competitor of the Year.
>>
>> Ironic that it was 1992. Because the very next year is when people
>> woke up and realized that Tae Kwon Do and all other traditional
>> martial arts were a gigantic load of horseshit.
>
> Well you being the spoofing liberator obsessee that you are, I know
> you won't fight me or anyone from Chos because you know the end result
> will be your hospitalization.
>
> Rick Roufus won't fight us, the Gracies did fight us and lost severely
> thus abided to Jim Lowe organizing their scripted loss against
> Sakubura striking them. So basically the Gracies willingly allowed
> themselves to be made "null" based on all their claims of striking not
> capable, because they fought a TKD master that they could not touch
> and were in fact knocked around like little bitches.
>
> So you until you fight me or someoen from the WTF/USTU and beat us,
> you're just written off. Any questions?

Time and place monkeyboy, he'll show, beat up your little dog to.


05 Oct 2003 10:24:23
Chas
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

"Rue The Day" <ruetheday@outgun.com > wrote
> Please provide proof that your TKD "master" knocked out a Gracie. I'd
> be pretty fucking careful about making an incorrect allegation like
> that lest a bunch of them show at Cho's school and make a mockery of
> him in front of his students.

Libby is always trying to sign someone up to go fight Cho, or Kim, or
whomever else. He's famous for calling for fights at someone *else's*
school, someone *else's* class, someone *else's* tournament.
He's a looneytune- he lives under a bridge and eats out of dumpsters. He
posts this stuff from libraries, cyber-cafes, demo terminals at computer
stores and so on.
'Cho' probably never heard of this guy- his name's 'Mark Zahn', by the way-
nor 'Kim', nor much of anyone else outside the mental health field in
Denver. He certainly has no history here in town as being other than a
mental patient with an obsession about Steven Spielberg, witches, porno,
young girls that refuse his advances in public places, mind-control,
Hitler/Jews, TKD in Milwaukee, and so on.
He doesn't speak for anyone, and going to someone's school to revenge an
insult by the silly motherfucker is probably pretty pointless.

Chas




06 Oct 2003 12:49:57
yurt
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

Chas wrote:

> "Rue The Day" <ruetheday@outgun.com> wrote
>> Please provide proof that your TKD "master" knocked out a Gracie. I'd
>> be pretty fucking careful about making an incorrect allegation like
>> that lest a bunch of them show at Cho's school and make a mockery of
>> him in front of his students.
>
> Libby is always trying to sign someone up to go fight Cho, or Kim, or
> whomever else. He's famous for calling for fights at someone *else's*
> school, someone *else's* class, someone *else's* tournament.
> He's a looneytune- he lives under a bridge and eats out of dumpsters. He
> posts this stuff from libraries, cyber-cafes, demo terminals at computer
> stores and so on.
> 'Cho' probably never heard of this guy- his name's 'Mark Zahn', by the
> way- nor 'Kim', nor much of anyone else outside the mental health field in
> Denver. He certainly has no history here in town as being other than a
> mental patient with an obsession about Steven Spielberg, witches, porno,
> young girls that refuse his advances in public places, mind-control,
> Hitler/Jews, TKD in Milwaukee, and so on.
> He doesn't speak for anyone, and going to someone's school to revenge an
> insult by the silly motherfucker is probably pretty pointless.
>
> Chas


You forgot the stalking part as where he'll mug you for your cell phone.


05 Oct 2003 21:04:03
LIBERATOR
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

"Chas" <chas@chasclements.com > wrote in message news:<6LWcnRCEWNQq2B2iXTWJig@comcast.com>...
> "Rue The Day" <ruetheday@outgun.com> wrote
> > Please provide proof that your TKD "master" knocked out a Gracie. I'd
> > be pretty fucking careful about making an incorrect allegation like
> > that lest a bunch of them show at Cho's school and make a mockery of
> > him in front of his students.
>
> Libby is always trying to sign someone up to go fight Cho, or Kim, or
> whomever else.

Your interpretation is very warped. But it's because you let a female
interpret for you. Where's the .mpeg, you know, my favorite, yoru
grandmaster tripping in a non-realistic demo like he's a yellow belt.

> He's famous for calling for fights at someone *else's*
> school, someone *else's* class, someone *else's* tournament.

Oh I see. Tsk Tsk.

> He's a looneytune- he lives under a bridge and eats out of dumpsters.

I do? I'm glad you told me. I didn't know this myself.

> He posts this stuff from libraries, cyber-cafes, demo terminals at computer
> stores and so on.

Hey, this cybergaming cafe Xevolution is Korean owned, and what do you
know, it's a friend of Chos. You want to stop up and see me?

> 'Cho' probably never heard of this guy- his name's 'Mark Zahn', by the way-
> nor 'Kim', nor much of anyone else outside the mental health field in
> Denver.

Ok, but where's that .mpeg of your grandmaster tripping like the clutz
he is?

> He certainly has no history here in town as being other than a
> mental patient with an obsession about Steven Spielberg, witches, porno,
> young girls that refuse his advances in public places, mind-control,
> Hitler/Jews, TKD in Milwaukee, and so on.

Are you thinking of getting into porn as a substitute because you
don't make money at your fantasy dancing?

> He doesn't speak for anyone, and going to someone's school to revenge an
> insult by the silly motherfucker is probably pretty pointless.

Ok, but put up that .mpeg again. *grin*, waiting patiently waiting
waiting waiting waiting.

> Chas

Whomever you are it doesn't matter. You're a fool and the whole RMA
knows it. Wanna bet?


05 Oct 2003 21:27:47
LIBERATOR
Re: HERB PEREZ mastering basics

> > >
> > > ...snip...
> > >
> > > > It is because of these
> > > > qualities that Black Belt has chosen him as its 1992 Male
> > > > Co-Competitor of the Year.
> > >
> > > Ironic that it was 1992. Because the very next year is when people
> > > woke up and realized that Tae Kwon Do and all other traditional
> > > martial arts were a gigantic load of horseshit.
> >
> > Well you being the spoofing liberator obsessee that you are, I know
> > you won't fight me or anyone from Chos because you know the end result
> > will be your hospitalization.
>
> Where are you guys located? If it's nearby, I'd be up for some
> sparring.

K-mart aisle 4. I'm at every K-mart, just goto aisle 4.

> > Rick Roufus won't fight us,
>
> Proof? Under what rules? TKD point sparring rules with no kicks to
> the legs or punches to the face at the insistance of the TKD people?
> I highly doubt Roufus would be afraid of any TKD bum in a real
> kickboxing fight.

Street. He apologized about rumors that were being told that he wanted
to fight Won or Ung, and they both told him to step outside he
wouldn't do it and apologized about the rumors mongered.

> > the Gracies did fight us and lost severely
> > thus abided to Jim Lowe organizing their scripted loss against
> > Sakubura striking them. So basically the Gracies willingly allowed
> > themselves to be made "null" based on all their claims of striking not
> > capable, because they fought a TKD master that they could not touch
> > and were in fact knocked around like little bitches.
>
> Please provide proof that your TKD "master" knocked out a Gracie. I'd
> be pretty fucking careful about making an incorrect allegation like
> that lest a bunch of them show at Cho's school and make a mockery of
> him in front of his students.

Who are you? Goto USA TKD on Rawson in Milwaukee. Or call Gracies or
email them. Don't play your "you can't prove it" with me, cuz it's all
verified.

> > So you until you fight me or someoen from the WTF/USTU and beat us,
> > you're just written off. Any questions?
>
> Again, under what rules?

Sex afterwards.