17 Aug 2006 07:42:37
Coltman
Japanese numbers

I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
me with the japanese numbers?
Thank you.



17 Aug 2006 07:54:32
theoriginaldimi
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman schreef:

> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:

gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer

Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!

Y'r welcome,

Dimitri



17 Aug 2006 08:01:36
Mike
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

Ichi,Ni,San,She, Go, Roku,Sichi,Hachi,Ku,Ju

Sorry for my mispellings, those are how I think they are spelled.

When we bark them out in class, it seems that it is customary to cut
off the last syllable (ifthere is one) i.e.

Ich,Ni,San,She,Go,Roq,Sich,Hach,Ku,Ju

-Mike K.



17 Aug 2006 08:06:16
suds mcduff
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

ich, ni, san, shi, go, rokyu, shishi, hachi, ku, ju

ju ich, ju ni, ju san, ect, ect.

ni ju ich, ni ju ni, ect, ect

That's how it sounds to me, anyway



17 Aug 2006 09:17:32
Neil Gendzwill
Re: Japanese numbers

Mike wrote:
> Coltman wrote:
>
>>I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
>>me with the japanese numbers?
>>Thank you.
>
>
> Ichi,Ni,San,She, Go, Roku,Sichi,Hachi,Ku,Ju

shi and shichi not she and sichi, otherwise ok. Depending on accent the
sh in shichi may sound more like s, and the final vowel in ichi, roku,
shichi and hachi is often not very audible, although a Japanese ear
probably hears it.

Neil


17 Aug 2006 08:17:53
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

Ichi, sounds like ee-chee
Ni, sounds like knee
San, sounds like sahn
Shi, sounds like she
Go, sounds like go
Roku, sounds like low-coo
Shichi, sounds like she-chee
Hachi, sounds like haw-chee
Kyu, sounds like Q (the letter)
Ju, sounds like joo
Ju-ichi, ju-ni, ju-san, ju-shi, etc., same as above

In class, the syllables might be abbreviated or exaggerated.

Just a note, this is only one system of counting in Japanese. They
seem to have a unique system for counting people, cups, shirts, birds,
etc. Very interesting.

karen



17 Aug 2006 15:20:21
Rabid Weasel
Re: Japanese numbers

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:42:37 -0700, Coltman wrote:

> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

Google is your friend. :-)

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk


17 Aug 2006 15:32:34
Rabid Weasel
Re: Japanese numbers

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:54:32 -0700, theoriginaldimi wrote:

>
> Coltman schreef:
>
>> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
>> me with the japanese numbers?
>> Thank you.
>
> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>
> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>
> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>
> Y'r welcome,

Why do I have the feeling you just taught him how to make a homosexual
proposal?

;-)

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk


18 Aug 2006 00:38:40
Gernot Hassenpflug
Re: Japanese numbers

>>>>> "theoriginaldimi" == theoriginaldimi <theoriginaldimi@gmail.com> writes:

theoriginaldimi > Coltman schreef:

>> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone
>> could help me with the japanese numbers? Thank you.

theoriginaldimi > I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of
theoriginaldimi > the reasons why I would never go back to a
theoriginaldimi > Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:

theoriginaldimi > gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze,
theoriginaldimi > vuile, hoer

I suggest wearing a helment while you're counting :-) And possibly a
ball-guard.
--
G Hassenpflug * Takemusu Aikido Juku Dojo Osaka


17 Aug 2006 15:45:28
Angry Black Man
Re: Japanese numbers


"theoriginaldimi" <theoriginaldimi@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1155826472.067964.217820@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>
> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>
> Y'r welcome,

Da Angry Black Man be's impres da dutch wommens. Da Angry Black Man be's
counten ta ten. He be's counten da inches ob da ten inch black bone. Da
dutch wommens be's squellien louder as another inch be's pounden home.




17 Aug 2006 12:10:44
David L. Burkhead
Re: Japanese numbers

Rabid Weasel wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:54:32 -0700, theoriginaldimi wrote:
>
>>
>> Coltman schreef:
>>
>>> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could
>>> help me with the japanese numbers?
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
>> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>>
>> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>>
>> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>>
>> Y'r welcome,
>
> Why do I have the feeling you just taught him how to make a homosexual
> proposal?
>
> ;-)

Actually, my guess would be something along the lines of "your mother is a
whore" or possibly a "vile whore."

David L. Burkhead




17 Aug 2006 16:15:20
Max
Re: Japanese numbers

Rabid Weasel <lawson@no21861spam+dayton.net > wrote:
...deletia...
>>
>> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
>> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>>
>> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>>
>> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>>
>> Y'r welcome,
>
> Why do I have the feeling you just taught him how to make a homosexual
> proposal?

You're right to suspect him, but you're going down the wrong track.
Bear in mind that Dutch and English are close relatives as we try
to simplify his sentence:

uw moeder is een hoer

--
Morituri te salutant.



17 Aug 2006 09:27:01
T.the.Magnificent@gmail.com
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.


1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9....

HTH. ;-)



17 Aug 2006 16:51:28
Rabid Weasel
Re: Japanese numbers

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:15:20 +0000, Max wrote:

> Rabid Weasel <lawson@no21861spam+dayton.net> wrote:
> ...deletia...
>>>
>>> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
>>> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>>>
>>> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>>>
>>> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>>>
>>> Y'r welcome,
>>
>> Why do I have the feeling you just taught him how to make a homosexual
>> proposal?
>
> You're right to suspect him, but you're going down the wrong track.
> Bear in mind that Dutch and English are close relatives as we try
> to simplify his sentence:
>
> uw moeder is een hoer

Durn feriners.

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk


17 Aug 2006 10:01:04
Re: Japanese numbers


theoriginaldimi wrote:
>
> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>
> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>
> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>
> Y'r welcome,
>
> Dimitri

I count in Italian at judo practice for that very reason.

karen



17 Aug 2006 10:14:16
theoriginaldimi
Re: Japanese numbers


David L. Burkhead schreef:

> Rabid Weasel wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:54:32 -0700, theoriginaldimi wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Coltman schreef:
> >>
> >>> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could
> >>> help me with the japanese numbers?
> >>> Thank you.
> >>
> >> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
> >> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
> >>
> >> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
> >>
> >> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
> >>
> >> Y'r welcome,
> >
> > Why do I have the feeling you just taught him how to make a homosexual
> > proposal?
> >
> > ;-)
>
> Actually, my guess would be something along the lines of "your mother is a
> whore" or possibly a "vile whore."
>
> David L. Burkhead

Literally it is:

"You dumb ape your mother is a vile, filthy whoe"

I said I used it for counting, I never said that these were actual
numbers...

Dimitri



17 Aug 2006 17:18:31
Rabid Weasel
Re: Japanese numbers

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:01:04 -0700, nagaiky wrote:

>
> theoriginaldimi wrote:
>>
>> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
>> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>>
>> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>>
>> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>>
>> Y'r welcome,
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> I count in Italian at judo practice for that very reason.

Counting in Italian gets you respect.

Counting in Latin just gets you weird looks. :-(

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk


17 Aug 2006 11:51:37
Coltman
Re: Japanese numbers

Learning japanese number ended up being a lot more fun than I expected
lol
Thank you for the info and for the laughs guys!!! :)

Claudia



18 Aug 2006 11:14:22
Gernot Hassenpflug
Re: Japanese numbers

>>>>> "Coltman" == Coltman <oltmancc@gmail.com> writes:

Coltman > Learning japanese number ended up being a lot more fun
Coltman > than I expected lol Thank you for the info and for the
Coltman > laughs guys!!! :)

We used to have fun in class seeing how many different languages
people could use in counting (legitimate numbers that is!). We got
through the usual colonial languages, Indonesian, and at least 3 or 4
tribal languages. Always fun stuff. Occasionally I try this in Japan,
but somehow the effect doesn't seem to appear. Different humour...
--
G Hassenpflug * Takemusu Aikido Juku Dojo Osaka


18 Aug 2006 05:45:10
Roger Taylor
Re: Japanese numbers

Coltman writes
>I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
>me with the japanese numbers?
>Thank you.
You've got the basic, ichi, ni, san etc, which is pretty much all you
need for a karate class, but, just as a matter of interest, I think
you'll find that the Japanese have more ways of counting than you can
shake a stick at - different ways for animate and moving things,
inanimate things, people, long thin things, flat things, books, houses,
on and on.

Cheers

Roger Taylor
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17 Aug 2006 23:28:36
ROME
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?
> Thank you.

Japanese Okinawan English
spelling pronunciation

ichi eech one
ni nee two
san son three
shi she four
go go five
roku rook six
shichi seech seven
hachi hotch eight
ku koo nine
ju joo ten

Shi also means death. So when you count 1 through 4 you use Shi. When
you say the number 4 alone you say "y-own" and one syllable I'm not
sure how its spelled.

Okinawans have a heavy accent like our southern accents. My sensai
pronounces his ichi, ni as: eye-ts, eye

He has a bachelors in Japanese culture, and lived and trained in
Hayashi-ha Shito-Ryu Kai for 5 years under the late Granmaster Hayashi.
This is the only way I know how to count. Their could be variations
depending on the lineage of the teachers.

-ROME



18 Aug 2006 02:47:44
Scary
Re: Japanese numbers


Max wrote:
> Rabid Weasel <lawson@no21861spam+dayton.net> wrote:
> ...deletia...
gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer

Is it a coincidence that randomly hitting the keyboard looks a lot like
Dutch.

Scary



18 Aug 2006 06:30:25
ragtag99
Re: Japanese numbers


> Just a note, this is only one system of counting in Japanese. They
> seem to have a unique system for counting people, cups, shirts, birds,
> etc. Very interesting.
>

its the same system for counting all objects, a suffix is normally
added, like ni-piki means two small animals go-nin means 5 people
(although hitori and futari means 1 and two people, thats just an
exception).

There is another system to count without suffixes which is used on
certain occasians (i sometimes still mess up when to use it even after
living in japan for over a year and a half...) which goes:
hitotsu 1
futatsu 2
mistu 3 (same mitsu as mitsubishi - three dimonds)
yotsu 4
itsutsu 5
...

but this system only goes up to 10. If someone says "how many chicken
on a stick do you want" you can say: san-pon or mitsu.



18 Aug 2006 09:41:12
Neil Gendzwill
Re: Japanese numbers

ROME wrote:
>
> Shi also means death. So when you count 1 through 4 you use Shi. When
> you say the number 4 alone you say "y-own" and one syllable I'm not
> sure how its spelled.

I've never heard you say "yon" for the number alone, but you certainly
use it if you are talking about a person. So 4th degree is always
yondan, not shidan (death-level). Same with 7 - nanadan, not shichidan.
As soon as I read or hear someone use shidan or shichidan, I know
there are no Japanese people in their organisation.

Neil


18 Aug 2006 17:55:14
Sam the Bam
Re: Japanese numbers

theoriginaldimi wrote:
> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>
> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>
> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!


You're really S. African, aren't you?

Sam



18 Aug 2006 17:55:18
Sam the Bam
Re: Japanese numbers

theoriginaldimi wrote:
> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons why I
> would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in dutch:
>
> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>
> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!


You're really S. African, aren't you?

Sam



18 Aug 2006 19:51:35
ROME
Re: Japanese numbers


Neil Gendzwill wrote:
> ROME wrote:
> >
> > Shi also means death. So when you count 1 through 4 you use Shi. When
> > you say the number 4 alone you say "y-own" and one syllable I'm not
> > sure how its spelled.
>
> I've never heard you say "yon" for the number alone, but you certainly
> use it if you are talking about a person. So 4th degree is always
> yondan, not shidan (death-level). Same with 7 - nanadan, not shichidan.
> As soon as I read or hear someone use shidan or shichidan, I know
> there are no Japanese people in their organisation.
>
> Neil
The Pinan katas for example. Heian Yondan, bunki Yon is a good example.
I say this is how I've heard it at least, and my sensei has a bachelors
in Japanese study and speaks and writes fluent Japanese. I think it
depends on the region of Japan it comes from as well.

-ROME



19 Aug 2006 15:15:15
Gernot Hassenpflug
Re: Japanese numbers

>>>>> "Sam" == Sam the Bam <samthebam1@lycos.com> writes:

Sam > theoriginaldimi wrote:
>> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons
>> why I would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in
>> dutch:
>>
>> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>>
>> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!


Sam > You're really S. African, aren't you?

Sam > Sam

No, that's me, jou bliksem (slang from Cape Town).

--
G Hassenpflug * Takemusu Aikido Juku Dojo Osaka


19 Aug 2006 15:57:24
Sam the Bam
Re: Japanese numbers

Gernot Hassenpflug wrote:
> theoriginaldimi wrote:
> >> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons
> >> why I would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in
> >> dutch:
> >>
> >> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
> >>
> >> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>
> > You're really S. African, aren't you?
>
> No, that's me, jou bliksem (slang from Cape Town).

You are a slim kerel, rooi nek!

Sam



20 Aug 2006 09:12:29
Gernot Hassenpflug
Re: Japanese numbers

>>>>> "Sam" == Sam the Bam <samthebam1@lycos.com> writes:

Sam > Gernot Hassenpflug wrote:
>> theoriginaldimi wrote:
> >> I always hated counting in Japanese, it is one of the reasons >>
>> why I would never go back to a Japanese ma. I always counted in
>> >> dutch:
>> >>
>> >> gij, lompe, aap, uw, moeder, is, een, vieze, vuile, hoer
>> >>
>> >> Use it to impress dutchmen if you ever meet one!
>>
>> > You're really S. African, aren't you?
>>
>> No, that's me, jou bliksem (slang from Cape Town).

Sam > You are a slim kerel, rooi nek!

Sam, Sam, Sam, ek sal jou donder :-) A rooi nek is an Englishman, and
you know that the only good Engelsman is a vrek Engelsman :lol:
--
G Hassenpflug * Takemusu Aikido Juku Dojo Osaka


20 Aug 2006 21:27:09
Ray
Re: Japanese numbers


Coltman wrote:
> I just started Karate classes and I was wondering if someone could help
> me with the japanese numbers?

Just count with the rest, heck, at first you can just grunt something
and it'll be OK. The Sensei at my place was quite understanding you
could count in English in the first few lessons. Anyway, they are:

Ichi, Ni, San, Shi, Go, Roku, Shichi, Hachi, Ku, Ju

The "chi" at the end is almost silent, at least that's the way my
Sensei says it.

> Thank you.