25 Apr 2008 12:15:39

Second Pair of Running Shoes

I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that would be good enough advice.

25 Apr 2008 13:26:54

Charlie Pendejo

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

bidd...@gmail.com: > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > would be good enough advice. For every runner like me who would advocate a different model, there are probably two or three who'd say get another pair of the same shoe.

25 Apr 2008 20:51:24

Tony S.

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

<biddy67@gmail.com > wrote in message news:8d680343-b128-4f65-85d6-874df340dcc5@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > would be good enough advice. You don't say what shoes if any you've tried in the past, or how well you like the shoes you have, whether you got them from a running store on advice according to your foot structure and running style, or if you just kind of chose them at random. If the latter, I'm all for trying new shoes once in a while. When you find some your feet really like, then get another pair of those next time, or if you're a higher mileage runner (you're not) stock up on that model while you can get it. -Tony

25 Apr 2008 21:03:02

Elflord

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

On 2008-04-25, biddy67@gmail.com <biddy67@gmail.com > wrote: > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > would be good enough advice. The advantages of having more than one instance of the same model are (1) once you find out what works, you can stick to it, and (2) if a model you like is on sale, you grab several of them, not just one. I don't know of any advantages of having different models unless they serve substantially different purposes (e.g. one for cross country racing, one for training runs) Cheers, -- Elflord

25 Apr 2008 14:16:31

tfactor

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

On Apr 25, 4:26 pm, Charlie Pendejo <Charlie.Pend...@gmail.com > wrote: > bidd...@gmail.com: > > > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > > would be good enough advice. > > For every runner like me who would advocate a different model, there > are probably two or three who'd say get another pair of the same shoe. If you're reasonably easy to fit and don't have complications like orthotics then I'll vote for getting a different model too (do we now need four to six to say get more of the same?). I don't have any real foundation for that opinion, I just don't like the idea of continually pounding away in the exact same shoe.

25 Apr 2008 14:18:47

brianj

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

On Apr 25, 3:26=A0pm, Charlie Pendejo <Charlie.Pend...@gmail.com > wrote: > bidd...@gmail.com: > > > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. =A0Should I buy the > > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? =A0I only run > > about 15 miles a week total. =A0Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that= > > would be good enough advice. > > For every runner like me who would advocate a different model, there > are probably two or three who'd say get another pair of the same shoe. Charlie: Why do you advocate a different model? brianj

25 Apr 2008 14:19:50

tfactor

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

On Apr 25, 5:16 pm, tfactor <tfactor.use...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Apr 25, 4:26 pm, Charlie Pendejo <Charlie.Pend...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > bidd...@gmail.com: > > > > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > > > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > > > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > > > would be good enough advice. > > > For every runner like me who would advocate a different model, there > > are probably two or three who'd say get another pair of the same shoe. > > If you're reasonably easy to fit and don't have complications like > orthotics then I'll vote for getting a different model too (do we now > need four to six to say get more of the same?). I don't have any real > foundation for that opinion, I just don't like the idea of continually > pounding away in the exact same shoe. I'll add though that at 15 miles/week it's probably not going to make a difference either way.

25 Apr 2008 15:19:18

Charlie Pendejo

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

brianj: > Charlie: Why do you advocate a different model? Largely the same reason I think tf gave above: mainstream running shoes all influence the gait, and my intuition says maybe it's best to slightly distribute these coercive forces using different models than to always have the same "correction" applied to one's gait. Just a hunch; no studies to quote or anything. The other concrete thing that comes to mind: it encourages experimentation. If it weren't for trial and error I'd still be in mainstream stability shoes and, I suspect, spent more time injured as a consequence. I kept finding that (starting with removing the horrible Superfeet inserts I'd paid extra for, when I "got smart" and bought my second pair of shoes from a real running store) the less stability, the lighter, the more flexible and low-heeled (1), the better. If one only runs in one model at any given time, it's probably not a good idea to make big changes from one pair to the next; so you might never learn there's something else out there which suits you better. One argument against which has been cited here before: if one model in your rotation does *not* suit you, it might remain a mystery whereas it'd be real obvious if that's what you were running in day in day out. Maybe it gradually leads to injury as you wear it a couple times a week but don't realize this shoe is to blame. (1) within limits: I do need some forefoot cushion if I'm gonna be running more than a few miles on pavement, else my right foot gets calloused

25 Apr 2008 17:18:06

Frank Boettcher

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:15:39 -0700 (PDT), biddy67@gmail.com wrote: >I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the >same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run >about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that >would be good enough advice. I run in at least four rotated pair, different ages, different brands, same style (nuetral cushioned). I've been told (by many posters here and others, that is good for you, strengthens the muscles in your feet and keeps you from getting too much "memory". I can't say if that is true, but it hasn't hurt. Frank

25 Apr 2008 20:43:49

Doug Freese

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

"tfactor" <tfactor.usenet@gmail.com > wrote in message news:74268165-c5d4-4f27-b4aa-02d963348f04@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 25, 4:26 pm, Charlie Pendejo <Charlie.Pend...@gmail.com> wrote: >> bidd...@gmail.com: >> >> > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the >> > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only >> > run >> > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, >> > that >> > would be good enough advice. >> >> For every runner like me who would advocate a different model, there >> are probably two or three who'd say get another pair of the same >> shoe. > > If you're reasonably easy to fit and don't have complications like > orthotics then I'll vote for getting a different model too (do we now > need four to six to say get more of the same?). I don't have any real > foundation for that opinion, I just don't like the idea of continually > pounding away in the exact same shoe. And I like to pound on the same shoe! Adding a different shoe potentially complicates the issue. Why worry about two pairs that can change models and then have to find a replacement. The changeability of one pair alone can be a pain in the ass. I was going to do analogy with a wife but it didn't come out right quite believable. ;) There is no rule of thumb but rule of fingers, many of them. -Doug

25 Apr 2008 20:45:30

Doug Freese

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

"Charlie Pendejo" <Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message news:8f6ae186-2702-4bdc-9e38-de54f44b8220@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > brianj: >> Charlie: Why do you advocate a different model? > > Largely the same reason I think tf gave above: mainstream running > shoes all influence the gait, and my intuition says maybe it's best to > slightly distribute these coercive forces using different models than > to always have the same "correction" applied to one's gait. Just a > hunch; no studies to quote or anything. > > The other concrete thing that comes to mind: it encourages > experimentation. If it weren't for trial and error I'd still be in > mainstream stability shoes and, I suspect, spent more time injured as > a consequence. I kept finding that (starting with removing the > horrible Superfeet inserts I'd paid extra for, when I "got smart" and > bought my second pair of shoes from a real running store) the less > stability, the lighter, the more flexible and low-heeled (1), the > better. If one only runs in one model at any given time, it's > probably not a good idea to make big changes from one pair to the > next; so you might never learn there's something else out there which > suits you better. > > One argument against which has been cited here before: if one model in > your rotation does *not* suit you, it might remain a mystery whereas > it'd be real obvious if that's what you were running in day in day > out. Maybe it gradually leads to injury as you wear it a couple times > a week but don't realize this shoe is to blame. > > (1) within limits: I do need some forefoot cushion if I'm gonna be > running more than a few miles on pavement, else my right foot gets > calloused Do you apply the same rationale to spouses? :) :) -D

26 Apr 2008 20:07:36

Dot

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

biddy67@gmail.com wrote: > I keep a good pair at work and need one for home. Should I buy the > same shoe (make and model) or a different one altogether? I only run > about 15 miles a week total. Is there a "rule of thumb" on this, that > would be good enough advice. With 15 mpw, it's not a big deal. If you have hard to fit feet and biomechanics, don't worry about another model, but stock up on model that works while it's still available. If it's already discontinued, start looking for a replacement model before you absolutely need it. If you run on trails at one location and roads at other, you might consider different models, but not necessary. Both shoe models that I run in are discontinued, but I have one model for summer that drains well and another model for winter that's a little bit warmer and has a tread pattern where I can put screws. Using those for winter when it's not too big a deal which I wear under neoprene overbooties on snowshoes, allows me to save my drainable shoes for summer conditions. (Actually, my winter model does have an updated version, but the toebox is too small for summer, but it works fine on roads this time of year.) Dot -- "Magic rocks and roots - the ones that trip you but you can never find afterwards" - Matt Carpenter

28 Apr 2008 06:59:16

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

Thanks for all the good input. My current "main" pair are $60 Asics Gel Solutions TN622 that I got fitted at a running store, first pair I've ever done that with. They are not a "perfect" fit, I think a bit wide in the front. I think I'll go ahead and look at shoes in the $100 and go with something different altogether to gain experience with another pair. The Asics have worked well, I find I'm less sore in the knees and hips after running (I typically do 3 sets of 5 miles every week) than when using my older $40 or so Adidas from the department stores.

28 Apr 2008 10:48:02

rick++

Re: Second Pair of Running Shoes

Having two shoes of the same model, but different ages can be a good strategy. You can tell when the older one feels like its detoriating. Each shoe might last a year at your rate. But moisture can take its toll too.