26 Apr 2008 23:15:25
Tony S.
Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.




27 Apr 2008 16:08:29
Tim Downie
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Tony S. wrote:
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
> goals.

Mon dnr
Tue easy run 7.6 miles
Wed easy run 4.9 miles
Thu dnr
Fri dnr
Sat Highland Fling Race 53 miles 10:47:50 1st male supervet (50-59) (See
separate report)
Sun dnr

Total 65.5 miles

Goals: Recover, try to stay injury free & prepare for the full West Highland
Way race in June. Hoping for sub 24hr.

Tim




27 Apr 2008 15:43:34
Frank Boettcher
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:15:25 GMT, "Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
>

day miles
21 5.5
22 7.5
23 5
24 6.1
25 1 very slow
26 4 ditto
27 3 ditto

total 32.1

YTD total 377.5


Well, I was on my way to my first 40+ mileage week then on Wed. after
finishing my run, moved a bunch of furniture and had a mild disk
slippage.

At least it allowed me to slow down and do a little trail maintenance
today. Took my shears and cut the spring branch overhang that was
causing me to bend to miss it. Got a couple of miles cleaned up,
couple more to go.

Corinth Coca Cola classic 10K this Saturday, if the back can handle
it.

Good running all.

Frank







27 Apr 2008 13:53:30
Charlie Pendejo
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

31, as

Tu: 5.5
Th: 5.5
Fr: 8.5
Sa: 5
Su: 6.5


27 Apr 2008 21:09:13
Tony S.
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

4/21 bike 0:42 easy 260'
hike 1:17 550' 5 mins bouldering, some downhill running
4/22 bike 1:21 easy 950'
4/23 bike 0:42 easy 260'
hike 1:42 240'
4/24 bike 1:14 easy/mod 980'
4/25 bike 0:55 easy/mod 260'
walk 0:45
4/26 bike 1:37 easy 1,140'
4/27 off

6:41 biking 3850', 3:44 hike/walk 790'

More cross training. The knee continues to slowly improve, and I'm doing
some more specific rehab exercises. It feels ok to boulder and run a bit,
though the joint integrity isn't there for run training yet. The goal is to
continue along the same lines mixing in more bits of running over the next
month to where I can start to do short runs. This was the worst injury I've
ever had, and it's been quite an eye opener.

-Tony







27 Apr 2008 14:24:22
D Stumpus
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Last week was so slow and dissapointing I didn't bother posting it.
Something like 64 miles, but absolutely no zip on any day. 1.5 minutes/mile
slower than pre-sickness.

This week I decided to re-enter the tennis world. I was about a level 5.5
player prior to starting to run in my late 20's, and haven't hit a ball in
7-8 years. My last tournament trophy is circa 1994, egad, time flies!
Seems a shame to let a highly developed skill atrophy, so when one of my
trading buddies asked me to hit with him, I dusted off the old racket.

I finally feel like I might be coming around on the endurance front. That 6
weeks of illness really took it out of me.

Mon: 2 very easy. Played tennis 1st time in 7 yrs y'day, Lt. hamstring very
sore.
Tue: 11.0 tempo route, could only manage 80% of normal time.
Wed: 0 Yesterday's run so awful, took day off. Served 300 balls in PM.
Thu: 11.0 "Tempo" run, hey, only 10% slower than before woo hoo!
Fri: 6 easy at 05:00 (o-dark hundred) on the quiet streets of LA.
Sat: 16, 3100' in Griffith park. Felt almost normal for a Saturday long
run.**
Sun: 7 easy, 1500' climb Echo mtn and beyond a bit. Felt really good.
Tennis after.

53 ish, 9300' climb. Hope to get it up to 65 or so next week.

**About halfway through my 16 miler, I stopped for water and another runner,
a very fit and trim younger guy, showed up at the same time. I took off as
he was refilling his bottle.

I took off down a 1.2 mile downhill at a good clip, probably 6:15 or so. If
he were to catch me, he'd have to move pretty fast. After two or three
minutes I heard very quick steps approaching. He'd have to have run close
to 5:00 pace to catch me so soon, and fast cadence + high speed = elite.

As he passed me I picked it up a bit and chatted with him, giving him the 20
question treatment. Yes he races some, recently ran 2:34 at the Mexico City
marathon (outstanding given the elevation is 2240m, 7350'). I asked him
what his PR was, and he said, "well years ago I ran a 2:11" (!). He's 42
and weighs 152 lbs now, as opposed to 130 in his prime. Take heart, Steve
Common! Unfortunately, I forgot his name, something like Rubin Acosta.

He runs those Griffith park hills every Saturday. He slowed down a bit for
me ("no problem, my legs are dead today") and we chatted about old times.
We raced many of the same trail races 20+ years ago, when he was 18-20 and I
was in my early 30's, and compared notes. Very nice guy. He definitely got
me running faster for a few miles. After I left him at his car, I continued
my run at a more sedate pace.




28 Apr 2008 00:53:15
steve common
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

DNR - I just can't face running anywhere but NYC anymore :-(


27 Apr 2008 19:43:39
joe positive
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:53:15 +0200, steve common
<steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote:

>DNR - I just can't face running anywhere but NYC anymore :-(

come to Florida next time!

Karen



live! vicariously!


27 Apr 2008 17:48:25
jobs
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Tony S. wrote:
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
>
>

M - -
T - -
W - 3 miles @7:30
T - 8 miles @7:40
F - -
S - 5.5 miles (decided to take no watch). Easy.
S - 8 miles (no watch - looks like dead battery). Slow, hot. 77F.

total: 24.5 miles

jobs

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27 Apr 2008 18:46:49
tfactor
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


Runs: 7
Miles: 61.2
Long: 18
Time: 10:06

Half marathon on May 25.


27 Apr 2008 20:45:42
D Stumpus
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"jobs" <jobin@remove-deez-words.hotmail.com.edu > wrote

> M - -
> T - -
> W - 3 miles @7:30
> T - 8 miles @7:40
> F - -
> S - 5.5 miles (decided to take no watch). Easy.
> S - 8 miles (no watch - looks like dead battery). Slow, hot. 77F.


Ha, gotcha, it was, like 98F in L.A. today...Seems like every two weeks we
get a heat wave. Where are you located?




27 Apr 2008 23:12:06
jobs
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

D Stumpus wrote:
> "jobs" <jobin@remove-deez-words.hotmail.com.edu> wrote
>
>> M - -
>> T - -
>> W - 3 miles @7:30
>> T - 8 miles @7:40
>> F - -
>> S - 5.5 miles (decided to take no watch). Easy.
>> S - 8 miles (no watch - looks like dead battery). Slow, hot. 77F.
>
>
> Ha, gotcha, it was, like 98F in L.A. today...Seems like every two weeks we
> get a heat wave. Where are you located?
>
>

NorCal, near SF. I used to live in Riverside. Summers there were
typically 100-110F. A 5-7lb weight loss used to be typical for me after
a 10 mile run. Today, I only lost about 3.5lb.

I read about the unusual heat waves this week in SoCal. Coachella was
101F today. At least they had the Coachella music festival to keep their
mind off the heat.

jobs
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28 Apr 2008 06:59:26
Daniel
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

A complete disaster. I am mentally skipping this week . Kick out
that data -- aberration!

Mon: weights
Tue 3.5 miles easy
Wed bad allergies day? . . . weights
Thu sick - head cold
Fri sick - yeah,
Sat blah blah blah
Sun Thought about running . . .

So obviously no race Sunday. Ah well. Can't be helped now.

Plans: I want to think of the next several months as Half Marathon
training, but I haven't really put together a schedule. I want to
improve (vs. last year) my 5K, 10K, 15K times at the club races. And
maybe a 25K on trails that doesn't involve learning to scale sheer
cliffs -- if such a thing exists?
--
Daniel ( deltaechomike@usa.net )


28 Apr 2008 12:49:53
Teresa Bippert-Plymate
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Tony S. wrote:
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
>
>
Goals: Local Grand Prix races, next is Cinco de Mayo 10k next weekend.
So far, I'm first in the 50-59 AG, so I need to hit as many of these
as possible. Still want to do ultra and or marathon next fall/winter.

Mon: 4.5 mi on treadmill, ~10:00 pace. Low 80'sF, but tired.
Tue: 5.0 mi on tread. 9:36 pace. Felt a little perkier today.
Wed-Fri: Observing run at telescope. No running. Hope we found
an exoplanet! Pretty tired, it sure is harder to stay up all
night than it was when I was a kid!
Sat: 7.55 mi, some outside, some on tread. Very stiff in calves,
I assume from all night sitting the last few days. Did a very
long stretching session after, it helped a lot.
Sun: 5.52 mi @ 9:11 pace. MUCH better!

Total: 22.57 mi (eek)

Teresa in AZ


28 Apr 2008 16:38:45
Parker Race
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:hIOQj.113$_v1.100@trndny06...
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
Mon: 5.5 trails easy

Tues: off

Wed: 5 incl. 4 4 X 400

Thur: 6.5 roads

Friday: 10 miles on the road bike

Sat: 5- 2 mile wu 5k - 23:53, ran a local 5k. Was tired, leges felt dead
during the warm uo and it got no better, hung it up and cruised the
last 1.1 after hitting the 2 mile mark at 15:04.

Sun: 14 trails

Total miles 36

Goals:
Go back to base work and gradually increase mileage over the next couple of
months. My body is telling me I'm not ready for hard training or racing no
matter how much my head wants to do it.

Races:

Maybe I can run/walk the Escarpment trail with Tony.






28 Apr 2008 22:03:58
Tony S.
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

"Parker Race" <prace@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:481635a7$0$30524$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hIOQj.113$_v1.100@trndny06...
>> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
> Mon: 5.5 trails easy
>
> Tues: off
>
> Wed: 5 incl. 4 4 X 400
>
> Thur: 6.5 roads
>
> Friday: 10 miles on the road bike
>
> Sat: 5- 2 mile wu 5k - 23:53, ran a local 5k. Was tired, leges felt dead
> during the warm uo and it got no better, hung it up and cruised the last
> 1.1 after hitting the 2 mile mark at 15:04.
>
> Sun: 14 trails
>
> Total miles 36
>
> Goals:
> Go back to base work and gradually increase mileage over the next couple
> of months. My body is telling me I'm not ready for hard training or racing
> no matter how much my head wants to do it.
>
> Races:
>
> Maybe I can run/walk the Escarpment trail with Tony.

Maybe we should haul a few cold ones to hoist on each major peak - windham,
blackhead and stopple ;)

-Tony




28 Apr 2008 18:22:32
Parker Race
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:iRrRj.1639$Q06.986@trnddc03...
> "Parker Race" <prace@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:481635a7$0$30524$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> "Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hIOQj.113$_v1.100@trndny06...
>>> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
>>> goals.
>> Mon: 5.5 trails easy
>>
>> Tues: off
>>
>> Wed: 5 incl. 4 4 X 400
>>
>> Thur: 6.5 roads
>>
>> Friday: 10 miles on the road bike
>>
>> Sat: 5- 2 mile wu 5k - 23:53, ran a local 5k. Was tired, leges felt
>> dead during the warm uo and it got no better, hung it up and cruised the
>> last 1.1 after hitting the 2 mile mark at 15:04.
>>
>> Sun: 14 trails
>>
>> Total miles 36
>>
>> Goals:
>> Go back to base work and gradually increase mileage over the next couple
>> of months. My body is telling me I'm not ready for hard training or
>> racing no matter how much my head wants to do it.
>>
>> Races:
>>
>> Maybe I can run/walk the Escarpment trail with Tony.
>
> Maybe we should haul a few cold ones to hoist on each major peak -
> windham, blackhead and stopple ;)
>

I'm sure Doug can help us with the proper training for that.




28 Apr 2008 19:29:16
Doug Freese
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"steve common" <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote in message
news:2t0a145vmnkukhao6g3tml375egc1aibpb@4ax.com...
> DNR - I just can't face running anywhere but NYC anymore :-(

You need some serious help! ;)

-D




28 Apr 2008 19:34:01
Doug Freese
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"Parker Race" <prace@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:48164dfa$0$3382$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:iRrRj.1639$Q06.986@trnddc03...
>> "Parker Race" <prace@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:481635a7$0$30524$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>> "Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hIOQj.113$_v1.100@trndny06...
>>>> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
>>>> goals.
>>> Mon: 5.5 trails easy
>>>
>>> Tues: off
>>>
>>> Wed: 5 incl. 4 4 X 400
>>>
>>> Thur: 6.5 roads
>>>
>>> Friday: 10 miles on the road bike
>>>
>>> Sat: 5- 2 mile wu 5k - 23:53, ran a local 5k. Was tired, leges
>>> felt dead during the warm uo and it got no better, hung it up and
>>> cruised the last 1.1 after hitting the 2 mile mark at 15:04.
>>>
>>> Sun: 14 trails
>>>
>>> Total miles 36
>>>
>>> Goals:
>>> Go back to base work and gradually increase mileage over the next
>>> couple of months. My body is telling me I'm not ready for hard
>>> training or racing no matter how much my head wants to do it.
>>>
>>> Races:
>>>
>>> Maybe I can run/walk the Escarpment trail with Tony.
>>
>> Maybe we should haul a few cold ones to hoist on each major peak -
>> windham, blackhead and stopple ;)
>>
>
> I'm sure Doug can help us with the proper training for that.

You get to the finsh and I'll have a cold one ready!!! If you get there
after the 6 hours cut off you may have wait for some to re-cyle.


-Doug




28 Apr 2008 20:19:43
Charlie Pendejo
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Doug:
> You get to the finsh and I'll have a cold one ready!!! If you get there
> after the 6 hours cut off you may have wait for some to re-cyle.

It won't still be cold then, will it?


29 Apr 2008 03:09:27
Christos Dimitrakakis
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On Apr 27, 1:15 am, "Tony S." <email_to...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.

The last 10 days were 'Active rest':

A 4 hour mountain hike.
A 40min uphill bike ride (on a damned road bike with insufficiently
small gears)
Three hill runs (300-400m climbs @ 20-30/40-50 mins up/total)
Light weights and callisthenics.

Goals:

This saturday: 40km MTB race (for fun).
16/17 May: 2x5k races (fun road race, then cross-country race)
25 May: 5 mile cross-country race




29 Apr 2008 07:05:52
Doug Freese
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"Charlie Pendejo" <Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:5d7b5541-551e-401a-9911-bc47c1bef809@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Doug:
>> You get to the finsh and I'll have a cold one ready!!! If you get
>> there
>> after the 6 hours cut off you may have wait for some to re-cyle.
>
> It won't still be cold then, will it?

I'm cold blooded and it gets seved in a old fashioned silver urinal with
the tilted bottom. Keeps it chilled!

-D




29 Apr 2008 14:33:17
Tony S.
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

"Charlie Pendejo" <Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:5d7b5541-551e-401a-9911-bc47c1bef809@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Doug:
>> You get to the finsh and I'll have a cold one ready!!! If you get there
>> after the 6 hours cut off you may have wait for some to re-cyle.
>
> It won't still be cold then, will it?

Oh now that's an issue for the mountaintop brews! Hmm I might have to bring
an insulated pack with a frozen liter bottle of water to keep em cold like I
did on that ROGAINE one time - packed a frozen 2 liter bottle into a pack
lined with a closed cell sleeping pad and packed a 12 pack in there. A
blazing hot day made quick work of that though but luckily they were still
cold enough to get down at 6am when my partner decided to take a nap. Then
it was actually a blast trying to navigate to the next checkpoint after 4 at
dawn - and I actually nailed the checkpoint! - only to be bitten in the ass
when we discovered we had to haul ass up the mountain to the finish area,
which was a literal nightmare for an hour for me.

-Tony




29 Apr 2008 19:11:43
steve common
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:

>You need some serious help! ;)

Don't I know it. So to get out of the rut, a part of the team from the
Sand Marathon have decided to try find sponsorship for a small team to run
the 350km/10 day Patagonia Anarctic Race, in 2/2009. If that doesn't get
me off my fat arse, nothing will :-)


29 Apr 2008 17:57:53
joe positive
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:11:43 +0200, steve common
<steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote:

>Don't I know it. So to get out of the rut, a part of the team from the
>Sand Marathon have decided to try find sponsorship for a small team to run
>the 350km/10 day Patagonia Anarctic Race, in 2/2009. If that doesn't get
>me off my fat arse, nothing will :-)

I am soooooo jealous! There are penguins there!

So jealous!

Karen



live! vicariously!


29 Apr 2008 21:59:20
Dot
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

steve common wrote:

> "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You need some serious help! ;)
>
>
> Don't I know it. So to get out of the rut, a part of the team from the
> Sand Marathon have decided to try find sponsorship for a small team to run
> the 350km/10 day Patagonia Anarctic Race, in 2/2009. If that doesn't get
> me off my fat arse, nothing will :-)

Now, that sounds like a worthy goal. :) We expect a full race report and
pics.!!

Dot

--
"Magic rocks and roots - the ones that trip you but you can never find
afterwards" - Matt Carpenter



30 Apr 2008 06:52:07
Parker Race
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On Apr 28, 7:34 pm, "Doug Freese" <dfre...@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
> "Parker Race" <pr...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:48164dfa$0$3382$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Tony S." <email_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:iRrRj.1639$Q06.986@trnddc03...
> >> "Parker Race" <pr...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>news:481635a7$0$30524$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> >>> "Tony S." <email_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:hIOQj.113$_v1.100@trndny06...
> >>>> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
> >>>> goals.
> >>> Mon: 5.5 trails easy
>
> >>> Tues: off
>
> >>> Wed: 5 incl. 4 4 X 400
>
> >>> Thur: 6.5 roads
>
> >>> Friday: 10 miles on the road bike
>
> >>> Sat: 5- 2 mile wu 5k - 23:53, ran a local 5k. Was tired, leges
> >>> felt dead during the warm uo and it got no better, hung it up and
> >>> cruised the last 1.1 after hitting the 2 mile mark at 15:04.
>
> >>> Sun: 14 trails
>
> >>> Total miles 36
>
> >>> Goals:
> >>> Go back to base work and gradually increase mileage over the next
> >>> couple of months. My body is telling me I'm not ready for hard
> >>> training or racing no matter how much my head wants to do it.
>
> >>> Races:
>
> >>> Maybe I can run/walk the Escarpment trail with Tony.
>
> >> Maybe we should haul a few cold ones to hoist on each major peak -
> >> windham, blackhead and stopple ;)
>
> > I'm sure Doug can help us with the proper training for that.
>
> You get to the finsh and I'll have a cold one ready!!! If you get there
> after the 6 hours cut off you may have wait for some to re-cyle.
>
> -Doug

Maybe we should start a new group:
wrecked.running



01 May 2008 07:49:03
Doug Freese
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"steve common" <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote in message
news:arje14dd1jii5lesmncdj7mkscebc61hc0@4ax.com...
> "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>You need some serious help! ;)
>
> Don't I know it. So to get out of the rut, a part of the team from the
> Sand Marathon have decided to try find sponsorship for a small team to
> run
> the 350km/10 day Patagonia Anarctic Race, in 2/2009. If that doesn't
> get
> me off my fat arse, nothing will :-)

Ouch, feast or famine! Your arse will be so tight even the boys in big
house won't want your for a fanny pack.

Hmm about 22 a day for 10 days. Sounds like day 5 or 6 will be the big
suck. I'll live vicariously throught your efforts. ;)

-Doug





01 May 2008 23:41:47
Tony S.
Next weeks thread...

I won't be around to post the thread until Monday, so any regular who want's
to post it, please feel free. Just use the same header format please.

-Tony




02 May 2008 07:06:38
Parker Race
Re: Next weeks thread...


"Tony S." <email_tonys@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:%ysSj.8189$zw6.7677@trnddc06...
>I won't be around to post the thread until Monday, so any regular who
>want's to post it, please feel free. Just use the same header format
>please.
>
> -Tony
>

Sounds like a job for me since I haven't run yet this week.

PR - ready to buy a bigger shirt and join wrecked.runnning




02 May 2008 05:41:28
anders
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On 27 huhti, 02:15, "Tony S." <email_to...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.

MON rest
TUE 50 min easy run
WED rest
THU 2 hrs on road bike
FRI 50 min easy run
SAT 4 hrs on road bike
SUN ditto


My training this week isn't an attempt to take a page off Tom B's
training manual, but just me doing what comes naturally at the moment.
(Besides, the gruelling session on the rowing machine is absent...)


Anders


02 May 2008 06:02:11
anders
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On 29 huhti, 20:11, steve common <steven.com...@wanadoo.fr > wrote:

> Don't I know it. So to get out of the rut, a part of the team from the
> Sand Marathon have decided to try find sponsorship for a small team to run
> the 350km/10 day Patagonia Anarctic Race, in 2/2009. If that doesn't get
> me off my fat arse, nothing will :-)

http://www.raidsahara.com/patagonie/patagonie.htm

The prospect of doing that should indeed put the ants where they
belong...


Anders


PS OTOH actually doing it could IMHO really make you no longer willing
to run anywhere outside of Central Park.



02 May 2008 15:33:23
martin =?UTF-8?B?csO4cmRhbQ==?
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

anders wrote:

> On 27 huhti, 02:15, "Tony S." <email_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and goals.
Ok my ISP is up again after a fire in one of their serverrooms!

m       DNR
t       ~10 km (6*1000 "play" w. last 400m fast; 70-74 sec)
w       5,5 km
t       ~10 km (2*1200m in ½ marathon pace)
f       DNR    
s       DNR
s       ~25 km Danish championchip on ½. The route isn't flat! 1.20.15
(11. ag (45); 97 overall) Bronce in team


martin, denmark
ps photos here:
http://www.photomotion.dk/new_basket.asp?eventid=532&deltagernr=4701



04 May 2008 13:33:56
Anthony
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008


"martin r?rdam" <martin.rordam@email.dk > wrote in message
news:481b1827$0$317$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
> s ~25 km Danish championchip on ½. The route isn't flat! 1.20.15
> (11. ag (45); 97 overall) Bronce in team

Nice result! Pity to just miss out on the sub 1:20...

> martin, denmark
> ps photos here:
> http://www.photomotion.dk/new_basket.asp?eventid=532&deltagernr=4701

It looks like you were running on a trail for some of the run,
and in front of a young competitor with an unusual foot strike..

Anthony.




04 May 2008 14:02:22
martin =?UTF-8?B?csO4cmRhbQ==?
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

Anthony wrote:

>
> "martin r?rdam" <martin.rordam@email.dk> wrote in message
> news:481b1827$0$317$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
>> s ~25 km Danish championchip on ½. The route isn't flat! 1.20.15
>> (11. ag (45); 97 overall) Bronce in team
>

A few comments are in place here!!:

> Nice result! Pity to just miss out on the sub 1:20...
Thanks. Indeed because these 16 sec costs me a big "expensive" beer ;-)
>
>> martin, denmark
>> ps photos here:
>> http://www.photomotion.dk/new_basket.asp?eventid=532&deltagernr=4701
>
> It looks like you were running on a trail for some of the run,
> and in front of a young competitor with an unusual foot strike..
Ok lets get the facts here!!!! I was running constantly and have had for the
whole race and this pic is from ~19,99 km. I have taken in a few runners
the last ~6-8 km and no one have taken me and here at the last few km I
just heard a pack comming racing from behind; didn't bother looking because
I did what I could and no one from behind could make me run faster
anyway.... This young guy is 18 years old and outpaced me with 28 sec on
the last 1,1 km!!!!!!! He did the last 1.100 m in 3.41!!!
But I did the same 27 years ago LOL

martin
>
> Anthony.



04 May 2008 23:01:34
anders
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On 4 touko, 13:33, "Anthony" <anth...@nospam.mail.biu.ac.il > wrote:

> >http://www.photomotion.dk/new_basket.asp?eventid=532&deltagernr=4701

> It looks like you were running on a trail for some of the run,
> and in front of a young competitor with an unusual foot strike..

A bit of googling reveals that young Martin is an orienteerer. IMHO
what appears to be a rather extreme heel landing in one pic could be a
simple misstep; the other two photos of bib number 596 would seem to
show a more normal foot strike. In any case he has a quite good "paw-
off" and leg extension (as he would have to in order to leave the
older Martin eating his dust).

(BTW their 10K splits were 37:43 and 39:25...)


Anders


04 May 2008 23:18:55
anders
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On 29 huhti, 13:09, Christos Dimitrakakis <dimit...@idiap.ch > wrote:

> A 40min uphill bike ride (on a damned road bike with insufficiently
> small gears)

Were you doing one of those hors categorie climbs or what? (I haven't
yet met a hill so steep or long that I couldn't - if I really had to -
climb it dancing out of the saddle, but FWIW the guy who sold me my
bike claimed that I could cross the Alps with a 36-25.)



Anders



05 May 2008 01:37:01
C. Dimitrakakis
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On May 5, 8:18=A0am, anders <hop.al...@suomi24.fi > wrote:
> On 29 huhti, 13:09, Christos Dimitrakakis <dimit...@idiap.ch> wrote:
>
> > A 40min uphill bike ride (on a damned road bike with insufficiently
> > small gears)
>
> Were you doing one of those hors categorie climbs or what? (I haven't
> yet met a hill so steep or long that I couldn't - if I really had to -
> climb it dancing out of the saddle, but FWIW the guy who sold me my
> bike claimed that I could cross the Alps with a 36-25.)
>
>

The hill was max 10% grade - a total of 330m in 5km. I've done
steeper stuff, including bits of the alps (on roads) on my MTB. The
thing is, with my MTB (which has 3x7 gears and I guess has the
standard gear ratios) I could always gear down sufficiently to go
easy, apart from very few super-steep bits. But my road bike requires
me to get off the seat after 10%.

As for 'steep or long enough to climb dancing out of the saddle', I
cannot do more than 5-10 minutes of that, and then not too many
consecutive efforts (perhaps 5-6?). Better gear down and stay on the
seat. I think the race on saturday consisted of 10 or so 100-200m
climbs.
After a few spirited attempts, I started giving up earlier and
earlier. Clearly, I need more training :)



05 May 2008 13:37:54
martin =?UTF-8?B?csO4cmRhbQ==?
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

anders wrote:

> On 4 touko, 13:33, "Anthony" <anth...@nospam.mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> >http://www.photomotion.dk/new_basket.asp?eventid=532&deltagernr=4701
>
>> It looks like you were running on a trail for some of the run,
>> and in front of a young competitor with an unusual foot strike..
>
> A bit of googling reveals that young Martin is an orienteerer. IMHO
> what appears to be a rather extreme heel landing in one pic could be a
> simple misstep; the other two photos of bib number 596 would seem to
> show a more normal foot strike. In any case he has a quite good "paw-
> off" and leg extension (as he would have to in order to leave the
> older Martin eating his dust).
>
> (BTW their 10K splits were 37:43 and 39:25...)

;-) are you able to read the result page?? !!


>
>
> Anders



05 May 2008 23:02:05
anders
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

On 5 touko, 14:37, martin r=F8rdam <martin.ror...@email.dk > wrote:

> ;-) are you able to read the result page?? !!

I can see the smiley, but I know I don't have the quickest wit there
is...do you mean you aren't - or what??!!


Anders

PS I'm not quite sure that I would get the results if someone read
them aloud fastish:-)






06 May 2008 10:29:19
martin =?UTF-8?B?csO4cmRhbQ==?
Re: Training Week Ending April 27, 2008

anders wrote:

> On 5 touko, 14:37, martin rørdam <martin.ror...@email.dk> wrote:
>
>> ;-) are you able to read the result page?? !!
>
> I can see the smiley, but I know I don't have the quickest wit there
> is...do you mean you aren't - or what??!!

No I mean that it is in Danish and as far as I can see you come from
Finland/Suomi am I right??!! And I certainly CAN'T read your language LOL

martin
but you are completely right!
>
>
> Anders
>
> PS I'm not quite sure that I would get the results if someone read
> them aloud fastish:-)