02 May 2008 21:09:56

Scott

neuroma

The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is bunched up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need surgery, he says. It's an inflamation of the sheath around the nerve. Anyone had this? Anything I can to do keep running on this? I have been limping and must be effecting my stride cause now my left knee is very sore. I am 61 and maybe this is going to be "it" for me. Hope not. Hoping to do the Med-City Marathon on Memorial day Sunday (Rochester MN) but I've been off the road for a week now. Yuck! Scott in Austin MN

03 May 2008 05:53:39

Doug Freese

Re: neuroma

"Scott" <srichard@charter.net > wrote in message news:hOPSj.128$md1.45@newsfe02.lga... > The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is > bunched up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need > surgery, he says. It's an inflamation of the sheath around the nerve. > Anyone had this? Anything I can to do keep running on this? > I have been limping and must be effecting my stride cause now my > left knee is very sore. I am 61 and maybe this is going to be "it" for > me. Morton's neuroma is not a run-ending problem. Surgery should be the last action to try. Check out http://www.drpribut.com/sports/spnerve.html or run "Morton's neuroma" through your favorite search engine. Most of the time the cause is from shoes that are too narrow, or tied to tight or in general the wrong shoe for you. A tight toe box keeps your toes squashed together, like the macho dude with the gorilla handshake, when your toes need room to flair out. At least re-lace your shoes and skip the first hole and keep tie it loosely through the first few holes. If simple shoe modification does not help there are cortisone shots, or custom orthotics that be made to take the pressure off the inflamed area. But again, surgery should be the last recourse. Your not done running by a long shot but it may take a while to find the correct solution. -Doug

03 May 2008 23:11:39

Scott

Re: neuroma

Thanks Doug for the advice and encouragement. Been running in the Asics 2120 series since way way back. I will relace and loosen up. Thanks. Scott in Austin MN "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote in message news:481c3622$0$7044$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > "Scott" <srichard@charter.net> wrote in message > news:hOPSj.128$md1.45@newsfe02.lga... >> The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is >> bunched up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need surgery, >> he says. It's an inflamation of the sheath around the nerve. Anyone had >> this? Anything I can to do keep running on this? >> I have been limping and must be effecting my stride cause now my left >> knee is very sore. I am 61 and maybe this is going to be "it" for me. > > Morton's neuroma is not a run-ending problem. Surgery should be the last > action to try. Check out > http://www.drpribut.com/sports/spnerve.html or run "Morton's neuroma" > through your favorite search engine. > > Most of the time the cause is from shoes that are too narrow, or tied to > tight or in general the wrong shoe for you. A tight toe box keeps your > toes squashed together, like the macho dude with the gorilla handshake, > when your toes need room to flair out. At least re-lace your shoes and > skip the first hole and keep tie it loosely through the first few holes. > > If simple shoe modification does not help there are cortisone shots, or > custom orthotics that be made to take the pressure off the inflamed area. > But again, surgery should be the last recourse. > > Your not done running by a long shot but it may take a while to find the > correct solution. > > -Doug >

04 May 2008 14:39:24

Frank Boettcher

Re: neuroma

On Fri, 2 May 2008 21:09:56 -0500, "Scott" <srichard@charter.net > wrote: >The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is bunched >up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need surgery, he says. >It's an inflamation of the sheath around the nerve. Anyone had this? >Anything I can to do keep running on this? > I have been limping and must be effecting my stride cause now my left >knee is very sore. I am 61 and maybe this is going to be "it" for me. Hope >not. Hoping to do the Med-City Marathon on Memorial day Sunday (Rochester >MN) but I've been off the road for a week now. Yuck! > >Scott in Austin MN Well, I guess I've got it now just didn't know what it was called. Very mild, only in my right foot, but it feels just like I have an extra pad in the middle of the forefoot. I've had it for several years, not getting any worse, doesn't stop me from running, so I've ignored it. I'm also 61. Now you've got me worried.:) Frank

04 May 2008 16:19:29

dandelion

Re: neuroma

Scott: I can sympathize; neuromas are no fun to deal with and can eventually become excruciatingly painful and yes, much more eventually, require surgery to repair. What your podiatrist isn't telling you...Active.com recently published an article on new lacing methods to help deal with shoe-specific problems; you can view it here: http://www.active.com/running/Articles/Customize_Your_Shoes_With_These_Tricks.htm?act=EMC-eNews_INS_0308&Link=5 As to your specific concerns: > The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is bunched > up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need surgery, he says. He must be pretty hard up to be recommending surgery, even if it is "eventually". My experience with Morton's neuroma in the past--that's the neuroma specific to that area and probably the most common among runners--has been fixed by loosening my laces. At the very least, get a second opinion before you let this guy cut you open... >Been running in the Asics 2120 series since way way back. It may be time for new shoes for you as well. Go to a running shoe store and have them fit you for shoes; it might turn out that the 2120s are (still) great for you, it might not. Be sure to let them know about the neuroma. I was an Asics devotee until I stepped into my first pair of Mizunos at the suggestion of one of the treadmill- analysis gurus at my local Fleet Feet store. Changing up shoe type may help also; see this group's discussion about this weighing the pros and cons of using the same type of shoes all the time vs changing it up, "Second Pair of Running Shoes", thread here: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.running/browse_thread/thread/6f5c7776d1bfd575?hl=en Good luck! ~Dondi

04 May 2008 11:16:18

Miss Anne Thrope

Re: neuroma

Jogging caused the injury. Jogging aggravates the injury. Jogger wants to continue jogging. This scenario plays out hundreds of times a year here. You all fight tirelessly for the illusion that jogging will lead to a longer and more healthy life, but who wants to live the extra two years if those years are spent suffering the self-inflicted damage you've incurred while doing so? Sincerely, Jim Fixx

06 May 2008 16:45:50

Tony S.

Re: neuroma

"Scott" <srichard@charter.net > wrote in message news:pGaTj.103$YZ4.91@newsfe05.lga... > Thanks Doug for the advice and encouragement. Been running in the Asics > 2120 series since way way back. I will relace and loosen up. Thanks. Scott > in Austin MN Not that your problem is the same, but when Asics switched to the newer foam in the 2120 I started having bad forefoot problems in both feet. Something about that shoe design improperly amplifiies pressure on the forefoot, at least for me. -Tony > "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:481c3622$0$7044$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >> "Scott" <srichard@charter.net> wrote in message >> news:hOPSj.128$md1.45@newsfe02.lga... >>> The podiatrist says its a neuroma. Forefoot, feels like my sock is >>> bunched up in the center of the forefoot. Eventually, will need surgery, >>> he says. It's an inflamation of the sheath around the nerve. Anyone had >>> this? Anything I can to do keep running on this? >>> I have been limping and must be effecting my stride cause now my left >>> knee is very sore. I am 61 and maybe this is going to be "it" for me. >> >> Morton's neuroma is not a run-ending problem. Surgery should be the last >> action to try. Check out >> http://www.drpribut.com/sports/spnerve.html or run "Morton's neuroma" >> through your favorite search engine. >> >> Most of the time the cause is from shoes that are too narrow, or tied to >> tight or in general the wrong shoe for you. A tight toe box keeps your >> toes squashed together, like the macho dude with the gorilla handshake, >> when your toes need room to flair out. At least re-lace your shoes and >> skip the first hole and keep tie it loosely through the first few holes. >> >> If simple shoe modification does not help there are cortisone shots, or >> custom orthotics that be made to take the pressure off the inflamed area. >> But again, surgery should be the last recourse. >> >> Your not done running by a long shot but it may take a while to find the >> correct solution. >> >> -Doug >> >