22 Apr 2008 21:36:38

Douglas W. Popeye Frederick

Re: How to kill babies

Oops, my mistake. Here's the on you "forgot" to reply to: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:... > "JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:f9a1feb8-c713-4c58-951e-d20b0a98f919@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 16, 6:38 am, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> Author Farley Mowat bails out anti-sealing protesters >> Bail paid in 'doubloons' after coast guard 'pirate action': Watson >> Last Updated: Monday, April 14, 2008 | 9:55 PM AT >> Comments314Recommend155CBC >> News >> Having put up the bail for two anti-sealing protesters, Canadian author >> Farley Mowat vowed to help defend the men after what he called their >> "atrocious" arrests. >> >> "I put up the bail and I will confirm now that I will use whatever >> resources >> I've got, monetary and otherwise, to defend them," the 86-year-old >> environmentalist told CBC News Monday afternoon. >> >> He described the arrest of the skipper and first officer of the Sea >> Shepherd >> Conservation Society's vessel - the Farley Mowat - as a tactic by >> officials >> to keep them away from the Gulf of St. Lawrence until the end of the seal >> hunt. Posting bail for the two was the "right thing to do," Mowat said. >> >> The author said it was "absolutely atrocious" that the Canadian >> government >> sent armed officers aboard this vessel "staffed entirely by innocent >> young >> people" and illegally arrested them in international waters. >> >> The Farley Mowat was boarded on Saturday by RCMP officers, working with >> officials from the federal Fisheries Department and the coast guard who >> have >> been monitoring the hunt. Crew members allege police handled them >> roughly, >> but RCMP deny using force. >> >> Bail paid in 'doubloons': Watson >> In a stunt designed to make headlines, Paul Watson, the head of the >> anti-sealing group, posted part of the bail in toonies. >> >> "I took out 5,000 $2 coins and that's what we're gonna pay the bail. They >> want cash, we'll give them cash. Doubloons. I think it's appropriate for >> their pirate action," Watson told CBC News earlier in Cape Breton. >> >> The Canadian Press reported that half the bond was paid in 2,500 toonies. >> Watson told the news agency that the coins had to be counted twice, >> because >> Cape Breton court officials lost track and had to start over. >> >> "I figure since they're going to board our vessel at gunpoint on the high >> seas and take all our property, they are pirates and we will give them a >> pirate ransom." >> >> The captain Alex Cornelissen and first mate Peter Hammarstedt spent >> Sunday >> night in jail in Sydney while they waited for anti-seal-hunt campaigner >> Watson to arrive from New York to post their bail of $5,000 each. They >> were >> released Monday. >> >> The two are accused of being in Canadian waters and interfering with the >> seal hunt after a confrontation with a Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker >> two >> weeks ago. The charges could result in fines of up to $100,000 or up to >> one >> year in jail, or both. >> >> Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society posted bail for the >> skipper and first officer of the group's ship, the Farley Mowat. >> (CBC) >> Watson rejected the claim that the ship was in Canadian waters, and >> therefore ignored a request to report to a Canadian port. >> >> He said the ship is a Dutch-registered vessel that was in international >> waters and doesn't have to answer to the Canadian government, only the >> Dutch >> government. >> >> "Canada is in no position to give orders to a Dutch-registered vessel in >> international waters." >> >> 'Money-sucking manipulators': Hearn >> Federal Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn, however, has said the arrests >> were >> made within Canadian waters. At a news conference after the raid, he said >> the officers had stopped "a bunch of money-sucking manipulators" from >> interfering with the hunt. >> >> Hearn said the ship's crew failed to comply with warnings and continued >> to >> violate marine and fisheries regulations. >> >> He elaborated during Monday's question period, telling the House, "Canada >> has laws in place to ensure the safety of our citizens. The Sea Shepard >> Conservation Society broke those laws and in so doing put the lives of >> our >> sailors at risk. >> >> "Paul Watson can continue with his PR exercise to siphon more money from >> an >> unsuspecting public. In the meantime. Mr. Speaker, I'll stand up for our >> sealers and our laws." >> >> The captain and first officer are expected to appear in court again on >> May >> 1, their lawyer Guy LaFosse said. >> >> Six other people on board the Farley Mowat were detained and interviewed >> by >> immigration officials but released on Sunday. >> >> Members of the crew said the police handled them roughly when they >> boarded >> the Farley Mowat. >> >> Australian Merryn Redenback, 32, said one of his fellow crewmembers was >> injured. >> >> "They [police] moved through our ship and forced everyone to the floor," >> Redenback said. "One of the crew members was assaulted. She received a >> minor >> head injury.. Everyone else was forced to the ground. I was forced to the >> ground in the bathroom, where I was just coming out of the bathroom." >> >> RCMP deny that any force was used in the arrest. The Farley Mowat is now >> tied up in Sydney harbour where it is being searched by Department of >> Transportation inspectors and RCMP officers. >> >> Gavin362436 wrote: >> >> Posted 2008/04/16 >> at 1:14 AM ET >> >> Farley Mowatt has earned a poor reputation as a naturalist or an >> ecologist, >> and a good one as a teller of tall tales. He's not a national hero in my >> book. Copied from wikipedia: >> >> "The Toronto Star has written that Mowat's memoirs are at least partially >> fictional. In a 1968 interview with CBC Radio, Farley admitted that he >> doesn't let the facts get in the way of the truth (Canada Reads). Once, >> when >> Mowat said that he had spent two summers and a winter studying wolves, >> the >> Toronto Star wrote that Mowat had only spent 90 hours studying the >> wolves. >> This hurt Mowat's reputation. >> An article in the May, 1996 issue of Saturday Night written by John >> Goddard >> lays out a somewhat more in-depth criticism of Farley's celebrated works, >> especially Never Cry Wolf. In an interview during the flap over the >> article, >> Mowat admitted that his books are "thinly-veiled fiction". As a result of >> these persistent and recurring claims, it is difficult to say with >> authority >> whether some of Farley's books, billed by many as non-fiction, are just >> that. >> L. David Mech, an internationally recognized wolf expert who has >> researched >> wolves since 1958 in places such as Minnesota, Canada, Italy, Alaska, >> Yellowstone National Park, and on Isle Royale, stated that Mowat is not a >> scientist and that in all his studies, he had never encountered a wolf >> pack >> which regularly subsisted on small prey as shown in Mowat's book. >> However, in Never Cry Wolf, Mowat does not suggest that the wolves he >> writes >> about subsist regularily on mice; only that they kill caribou in much >> smaller numbers than had been previously reported and that their diet was >> supplemented with small prey." >> >> Posted 2008/04/16 >> at 12:43 AM ET >> >> It's heartening and concerning at the same time to see that people who >> are >> literate enough to read the news--and bother to comment--have absolutely >> no >> analysis. We're all very tired of the "if we care about animals we don't >> care about humans" argument. What, pray tell, does the situation in >> Darfur >> have to do with the seal hunt? Nothing--they are separate issues. >> >> What both situations do have in common, unfortunately, is human greed and >> power, pure and simple. Innocent people die in countless developing >> countries because of unfair trade practices, western foreign policy, and >> western economic interests. We then conveniently blame "corrupt >> governments" >> and refuse to acknowledge our own culpability. >> >> The seals die, as well, because of human greed and power, and economic >> interests. No creature deserves o die in an inhumane way to line the >> pockets >> of governments, businesses or sealers. >> >> We're all very tired of the argument that sealers are "just trying to >> feed >> their families." They make a pittance compared to the greedy corporations >> that exploit both them and the seals. >> >> It has to stop. We are not barbarians, and nor are the sealers--they are >> pawns in a huge corporate game. >> >> On another note--the RCMP are turning into the KGB, and if we don't stay >> alert as a nation we will soon find that all our individual rights and >> freedoms have disappeared, It CAN happen here. >> >> Mr. Mowat, I tip my hat to you sir. Thank you for all you have done. >> >> abusegrau11 wrote: >> >> Posted 2008/04/15 >> at 10:45 PM ET >> >> I wonder what the crew of the Raley Mowat were eating while they were out >> there?? Are they all vegetarians??? I drove stock truck for a few years, >> transporting pigs and cattle to the various processors so I have seen >> first >> hand the treatment that these animals recieve along the way to >> "slaughter". >> The treatment these animals recieve on average is far and away worse than >> what these seal pups go through. If we look at all the products that we >> use >> today you can rest assurred that there are many containing animal >> products. >> >> Many people on this site, unfortunately, are misinformed and truly >> ignorant >> of the realities of this world. I hunt every year as I prefer wild meat >> to >> that which we call domesticated mainly because of my experiences driving >> stock truck.....I have no illusions about what happens at the processing >> plants....the actions many would call cruel, barbaric and primitive. When >> I >> hunt I always try for a one shot kill so the animal does not suffer >> needlesly and I am fortunate enough to take the time and care to ensure >> that >> 99% of the time that this si the case. I believe that my actions will be >> called senseless slaughter by these so called "enlightened" people who >> support Watson. He may have the right to his opinions and in a way you >> have >> to applaud someone who will follow those convictions but when they >> distort >> the realities of such things as the seal hunt...well..... >> >> Really people, lets all focus on the human tradegies....more people are >> killed in one month due to the various African wars and genocide.....I >> don't >> see Paul Watson or the so called "Saviours of the Animals" tyoe of person >> screaming and crying over the senseless murder of hundreds of thousands >> of >> children every year. So lets see....Seal pups are more important because >> of >> headlines and money raised than some poor defenseless child???? >> >> Twisted ... >> >> read more » > > I gotta ask - was this post meant to further yer case? > > No, it was just further commentary on Canada's act of piracy. > > Nutbars attract > nutbars, it seems. The Greenpeacers of today complement old fakes like > Mowat perfectly. > > Wikipedia- Mowat: war hero, intelligence agent, trained biologist, > author of 40 books, some made into movies. Philanthopist, defender of > ecology, officer in The Order Of Canada. Bailbondsman. > > Futile John: Mowat: "old faker". > > > He faked his way to literary success > > He musta stuped a shitpile of Canadians after 40 books and a film. > > (not that he > wasn't a passable writer of fiction) just like Watson et al are faking > their way through "save the whales" and making a living in the process > with lotsa celebrity to boot. > > Oh, look. > > John in a vitriolic charachter assasination. > > What a surprise. > > Wikipedia: Watson: 30 year history of global environmentalism > fighting, among many things. deforestation, shark finning, fish poaching, > whaling and risked his ass and freedom many times. Elected to Sierra Club > board, affiliated with mant environmental orginazations and politicians. > > Futile John: Watson: "Faking his way through "save the whales" for > celebrity". > > There was a time when Green Peace was a symbol of all that was good > and hopeful about our world. I still have a poster of the Rainbow > Warrior that our son bought in high school and posted in his bedroom > to show his support for that crowd. Then one night we had some yahoo > come to door telling us we owed our support to something that involved > Green Peace (I never was clear on what exactly the something was) and > I was to give him money. My immediate reaction was to write a cheque > for our son's sake but the silly ass didn't know when to shut up and > persisted in browbeating me, despite the fact that by then the > chequebook was out, > > GLORY BE! > > Yeah, dude, we know how squeaky tight you are with -that- thing. > > and he talked his way right in and out of a > contribution. I finally told him I was too close to getting really > pissed off and was about to drive him in the head. He then beat an > ignominious retreat, hied his skinny ass off the property > > Did you run the skinny little hippy off with a 9 iron? > > Or did you put the stick to him? > > excoriating > me at the top of his lungs, making a laughing stock of himself and > Green Peace in the process for several of my neighbours. > > Oh, I'm sure they were laughing, alright. > > My son heard > the exchange and told me later he'd gotten over his youthful idealism, > at least as it applied to Green Peace. To this day that memory is the > lasting impression I have of Green Peace and all of that ilk. I've > still got the poster of Rainbow Warrior. > > One wonders if Farley Mowat will insist that his name be removed from > that coast guard cutter, on principle. > > ???? > > Didn't he just spring ten grand for bail? > > I know that backing your mouth with money is a foriegn concept to your > type, but ole Farley stepped right up like a man. > > I can see why you hate him so much. > > "I put up the bail and I will confirm now that I will use whatever > resources I've got, monetary and otherwise, to defend them," > > Better all mouth and no sac, like your team, eh? > > JF > -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com