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| 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Today's Quotes: |
Today's Quotes: The politicians were talking themselves red, white, and blue in the face. - Clare Boothe Luce, 1902 - 1987 Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, politicians. All three need supervision. - Dick Armey The politician in my country seeks votes, affection, and respect, in that order.... With few notable exceptions, they are simply men who want to be loved. - Edward R. Murrow, 1908 - 1965 The trouble with this country is that there are too many politicians who believe, with a conviction based on experience, that you can fool all of the people all of the time. - Franklin P. Adams, 1881 - 1960 The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. - Harry S Truman, 1884 - 1972 -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 26 Apr 2008 17:57:36 |
| John R. Macdonald |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > Today's Quotes: snip a few good quotes > > The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - >and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. > - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 > Well you're living proof practical politics are effective snip >-- |
| 26 Apr 2008 18:24:02 |
| Rod |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > Today's Quotes: > The politicians were talking themselves red, white, and blue in the >face. > - Clare Boothe Luce, 1902 - 1987 > > Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, >politicians. All three need supervision. > - Dick Armey > > The politician in my country seeks votes, affection, and respect, in >that order.... With few notable exceptions, they are simply men who want to >be loved. > - Edward R. Murrow, 1908 - 1965 > > The trouble with this country is that there are too many politicians >who believe, with a conviction based on experience, that you can fool all of >the people all of the time. > - Franklin P. Adams, 1881 - 1960 > > The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - >and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. > - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 > > My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a >whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any >difference. > - Harry S Truman, 1884 - 1972 > >-- > >-- > > > A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment > different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, > fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper > > > Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com > Where is the next Harry S when we need him |
| 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr > wrote in message news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >> Today's Quotes: > snip a few good quotes >> >> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >> alarmed - >>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >> > Well you're living proof practical politics are effective > > snip When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and have stated that I'm not alarmed about much. Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. Going on for years now. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 27 Apr 2008 23:18:50 |
| John R. Macdonald |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: >"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >>> Today's Quotes: >> snip a few good quotes >>> >>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>> alarmed - >>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>> >> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >> >> snip > > > When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and have >stated that I'm not alarmed about much. > > Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. > > Going on for years now. >-- Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells raining down on American cities. We all know how credible that threat was. I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I suspect you'll say that you never believed them. John They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
| 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr > wrote in message news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... > > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Today's Quotes: >>> snip a few good quotes >>>> >>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>> alarmed - >>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>> >>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>> >>> snip >> >> >> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >> have >>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >> >> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >> >> Going on for years now. >>-- > Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells > raining down on American cities. That's patently ridiculous. I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, and, that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and superstitions. >We all know how credible that threat > was. > I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. > I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you > believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH > were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I > suspect you'll say that you never believed them. It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to justify the invasion. You're a lying piece of shit. Nothing new there. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 29 Apr 2008 00:55:58 |
| John R. Macdonald |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: >"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >> >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Today's Quotes: >>>> snip a few good quotes >>>>> >>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>>> alarmed - >>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless >>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>>> >>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>>> >>>> snip >>> >>> >>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >>> have >>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >>> >>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >>> >>> Going on for years now. >>>-- >> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >> raining down on American cities. > > That's patently ridiculous. > > I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. > > Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. > > I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, and, >that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. > Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. > It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >superstitions. WTF are you talking about? > >>We all know how credible that threat >> was. >> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. > > Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. > Remember writing? "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" >> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. > > It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket all) I was just wondering what your position was. > > I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to justify >the invasion. What real justification was there for the invasion then? > > You're a lying piece of shit. Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a factual rebuttal eh? > > Nothing new there. Check :-) > >-- Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards the coalition forces serving in Iraq? Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you have never seen it? |
| 29 Apr 2008 00:19:57 |
| crownfield |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
In article <t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com >, scubajohn@remove.free.fr says... -On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" -<Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: - - >"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message - >news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... - >> - >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" - >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: - >> - >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message - >>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... - >>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" - >>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: - >>>> - >>>>> Today's Quotes: - >>>> snip a few good quotes - >>>>> - >>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace - >>>>> alarmed - - >>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless - >>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - >>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 - >>>>> - >>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective - >>>> - >>>> snip - >>> - >>> - >>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and - >>> have - >>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. - >>> - >>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. - >>> - >>> Going on for years now. - >>>-- - >> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells - >> raining down on American cities. - > - > That's patently ridiculous. - > - > I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. - > - > Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. - > - > I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, and, - >that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. - > -Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of -the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not -them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. - - > It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and - >superstitions. -WTF are you talking about? - > - >>We all know how credible that threat - >> was. - >> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. - > - > Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. - > -Remember writing? - "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times -Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" - - >> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you - >> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH - >> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I - >> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. - > - > It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA - >posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. - -I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket -all) I was just wondering what your position was. - > - > I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to justify - >the invasion. - -What real justification was there for the invasion then? - > - > You're a lying piece of shit. - -Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a -factual rebuttal eh? not ad hominem, just factual description. - > - > Nothing new there. -Check :-) - > - >-- -Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you -care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for -Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards -the coalition forces serving in Iraq? -Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you -have never seen it? - -- Bob Crownfield crownfield@verizon.net |
| 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr > wrote in message news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >>> >>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Today's Quotes: >>>>> snip a few good quotes >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>>>> alarmed - >>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an >>>>>>endless >>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>>>> >>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>>>> >>>>> snip >>>> >>>> >>>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >>>> have >>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >>>> >>>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >>>> >>>> Going on for years now. >>>>-- >>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >>> raining down on American cities. >> >> That's patently ridiculous. >> >> I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. >> >> Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. >> >> I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, >> and, >>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. >> > Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of > the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not > them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked anybody. :-) >> It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >>superstitions. > WTF are you talking about? Uh-huh. >>>We all know how credible that threat >>> was. >>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. >> >> Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. >> > Remember writing? > "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times > Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. Let's see you prove your accusation. >>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >>> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. >> >> It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. > > I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket > all) I was just wondering what your position was. I can read. The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it up but the Bushaters. >> I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to >> justify >>the invasion. > > What real justification was there for the invasion then? You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets that Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that everyone seems to slide past. But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually gotten around to- He made many a brag, and we did him. >> You're a lying piece of shit. > > Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a > factual rebuttal eh? Are you talking to me, or yourself? You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting for a single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. Same as always. >> Nothing new there. > Check :-) >> >>-- > Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you > care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for > Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards > the coalition forces serving in Iraq? > Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you > have never seen it? I saw it before, and ignored it before. Just like now. After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 30 Apr 2008 08:10:00 |
| Scott |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:14WdnSTCTKEuho7VnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@supernews.com... > Today's Quotes: > The politicians were talking themselves red, white, and blue in the > face. > - Clare Boothe Luce, 1902 - 1987 > > Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, > politicians. All three need supervision. > - Dick Armey > > The politician in my country seeks votes, affection, and respect, in > that order.... With few notable exceptions, they are simply men who want to > be loved. > - Edward R. Murrow, 1908 - 1965 > > The trouble with this country is that there are too many politicians > who believe, with a conviction based on experience, that you can fool all of > the people all of the time. > - Franklin P. Adams, 1881 - 1960 > > The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - > and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless > series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. > - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 > > My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a > whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any > difference. > - Harry S Truman, 1884 - 1972 "Erudition. Dust shaken out of a book into an empty skull." -- Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce (1842-1914) "...The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. In England, the people have been disarmed, generally, under the specious pretext of preserving the game: a never failing lure to bring over the landed aristocracy to support any measure, under that mask, though calculated for very different purposes. True it is, their bill of rights seems at first view to counteract this policy: but the right of bearing arms is confined to protestants, and the words suitable to their condition and degree, have been interpreted to authorise the prohibition of keeping a gun or other engine for the destruction of game, to any farmer, or inferior tradesman, or other person not qualified to kill game. So that not one man in five hundred can keep a gun in his house without being subject to a penalty." -- St. George Tucker (1752-1827), American jurist, Blackstone's Commentaries, Book 1, Appendix, Philadelphia, 1803 "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. President, letter to John Cartwright, 1824 "On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. President, letter to George Washington, June 19, 1796 "But to prohibit the citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm, except upon his own premises or when on a journey traveling through the country with baggage, or when acting as or in aid of an officer, is an unwarranted restriction upon his constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." -- Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52 (1878) "The next amendment is "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offence to keep arms, and by substituting a regular army in the stead of a resort to the militia. The friends of a free government cannot be too watchful, to overcome the tendency of the public mind to sacrifice, for the sake of mere private convenience, this powerful check upon the designs of ambitious men. The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them. And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How it is practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it is difficult to see. There is no small danger, that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt, and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights." -- Joseph Story (1779-1845), U.S. Supreme Court Justice, A Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, 1842 "...All too many of the other great tragedies of history -- Stalin's atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few -- were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. See Kleinfeld Dissent at 5997-99. If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars. My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once. Fortunately, the Framers were wise enough to entrench the right of the people to keep and bear arms within our constitutional structure. The purpose and importance of that right was still fresh in their minds, and they spelled it out clearly so it would not be forgotten. Despite the panel's mighty struggle to erase these words, they remain, and the people themselves can read what they say plainly enough: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The sheer ponderousness of the panel's opinion -- the mountain of verbiage it must deploy to explain away these fourteen short words of constitutional text -- refutes its thesis far more convincingly than anything I might say. The panel's labored effort to smother the Second Amendment by sheer body weight has all the grace of a sumo wrestler trying to kill a rattlesnake by sitting on it -- and is just as likely to succeed." -- Judge Alex Kozinski, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc: Silveira v. Lockyer, May 6, 2003 "Trial. A formal inquiry designed to prove and put upon record the blameless characters of judges, advocates and jurors. In order to effect this purpose it is necessary to supply a contrast in the person of one who is called the defendant, the prisoner or the accused. If the contrast is made sufficiently clear this person is made to undergo such an affliction as will give the virtuous gentlemen a comfortable sense of their immunity, added to that of their worth... Appeal. In law, to put the dice into the box for another throw." -- Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." -- Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill "When you disarm your subjects you offend them by showing that either from cowardliness or lack of faith, you distrust them; and either conclusion will induce them to hate you." -- Niccolo Machiavelli |
| 01 May 2008 04:56:23 |
| John R. Macdonald |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: >"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Today's Quotes: >>>>>> snip a few good quotes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>>>>> alarmed - >>>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an >>>>>>>endless >>>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>>>>> >>>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>>>>> >>>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >>>>> have >>>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >>>>> >>>>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >>>>> >>>>> Going on for years now. >>>>>-- >>>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >>>> raining down on American cities. >>> >>> That's patently ridiculous. >>> >>> I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. >>> >>> Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. >>> >>> I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, >>> and, >>>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. >>> >> Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of >> the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not >> them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. > > And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked >anybody. :-) > >>> It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >>>superstitions. >> WTF are you talking about? > > Uh-huh. > >>>>We all know how credible that threat >>>> was. >>>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. >>> >>> Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. >>> >> Remember writing? >> "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times >> Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" > > I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. > > Let's see you prove your accusation. > >>>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >>>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >>>> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >>>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. >>> >>> It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >>>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. >> >> I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket >> all) I was just wondering what your position was. > > I can read. > > The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it up >but the Bushaters. > >>> I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to >>> justify >>>the invasion. >> >> What real justification was there for the invasion then? > > You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- > > Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets that >Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that >everyone seems to slide past. > > But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for >having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually gotten >around to- > > He made many a brag, and we did him. > >>> You're a lying piece of shit. >> >> Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a >> factual rebuttal eh? > > Are you talking to me, or yourself? > > You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting for a >single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. > > Same as always. > >>> Nothing new there. > >> Check :-) >>> >>>-- >> Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you >> care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for >> Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards >> the coalition forces serving in Iraq? >> Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you >> have never seen it? > > I saw it before, and ignored it before. > > Just like now. > > After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. > > > >-- Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before you answer a simple question. It's just a flimsy and transparent pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; IOW you're a coward. Fact duly noted, 'nuff said. |
| 30 Apr 2008 23:19:41 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr > wrote in message news:q31i141pcq10at58o83dimmhq7d3f8j671@4ax.com... > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" >>>>>>> Frederick" >>>>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today's Quotes: >>>>>>> snip a few good quotes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>>>>>> alarmed - >>>>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an >>>>>>>>endless >>>>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>>>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>>>>>> >>>>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >>>>>> have >>>>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Going on for years now. >>>>>>-- >>>>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >>>>> raining down on American cities. >>>> >>>> That's patently ridiculous. >>>> >>>> I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. >>>> >>>> Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. >>>> >>>> I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, >>>> and, >>>>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the >>>>Bomb. >>>> >>> Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of >>> the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not >>> them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. >> >> And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked >>anybody. :-) >> >>>> It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >>>>superstitions. >>> WTF are you talking about? >> >> Uh-huh. >> >>>>>We all know how credible that threat >>>>> was. >>>>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. >>>> >>>> Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. >>>> >>> Remember writing? >>> "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times >>> Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" >> >> I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. >> >> Let's see you prove your accusation. >> >>>>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >>>>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >>>>> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >>>>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. >>>> >>>> It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >>>>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. >>> >>> I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket >>> all) I was just wondering what your position was. >> >> I can read. >> >> The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it up >>but the Bushaters. >> >>>> I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to >>>> justify >>>>the invasion. >>> >>> What real justification was there for the invasion then? >> >> You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- >> >> Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets >> that >>Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that >>everyone seems to slide past. >> >> But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for >>having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually >>gotten >>around to- >> >> He made many a brag, and we did him. >> >>>> You're a lying piece of shit. >>> >>> Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a >>> factual rebuttal eh? >> >> Are you talking to me, or yourself? >> >> You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting for a >>single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. >> >> Same as always. >> >>>> Nothing new there. >> >>> Check :-) >>>> >>>>-- >>> Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you >>> care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for >>> Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards >>> the coalition forces serving in Iraq? >>> Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you >>> have never seen it? >> >> I saw it before, and ignored it before. >> >> Just like now. >> >> After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. >> >> >> >>-- > Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before > you answer a simple question. Mate, you're the one making the demand. And in no different a position. > It's just a flimsy and transparent > pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; The answer is simple and straight forward. Why would it embarrass me? >IOW you're a > coward. > Fact duly noted, 'nuff said. Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability noted- nuff said. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 13:51:37 |
| dechucka |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:3t6dnRJ7iLVNq4TVnZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@supernews.com... > "John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message > news:q31i141pcq10at58o83dimmhq7d3f8j671@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >>>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" >>>>>>>> Frederick" >>>>>>>> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Today's Quotes: >>>>>>>> snip a few good quotes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >>>>>>>>> alarmed - >>>>>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an >>>>>>>>>endless >>>>>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >>>>>>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> snip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> have >>>>>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Going on for years now. >>>>>>>-- >>>>>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >>>>>> raining down on American cities. >>>>> >>>>> That's patently ridiculous. >>>>> >>>>> I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. >>>>> >>>>> Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. >>>>> >>>>> I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, >>>>> and, >>>>>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the >>>>>Bomb. >>>>> >>>> Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of >>>> the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not >>>> them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. >>> >>> And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked >>>anybody. :-) >>> >>>>> It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >>>>>superstitions. >>>> WTF are you talking about? >>> >>> Uh-huh. >>> >>>>>>We all know how credible that threat >>>>>> was. >>>>>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather >>>>>> hilarious. >>>>> >>>>> Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. >>>>> >>>> Remember writing? >>>> "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times >>>> Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" >>> >>> I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. >>> >>> Let's see you prove your accusation. >>> >>>>>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >>>>>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >>>>>> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >>>>>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. >>>>> >>>>> It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >>>>>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. >>>> >>>> I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket >>>> all) I was just wondering what your position was. >>> >>> I can read. >>> >>> The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it up >>>but the Bushaters. >>> >>>>> I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to >>>>> justify >>>>>the invasion. >>>> >>>> What real justification was there for the invasion then? >>> >>> You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- >>> >>> Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets >>> that >>>Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that >>>everyone seems to slide past. >>> >>> But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for >>>having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually >>>gotten >>>around to- >>> >>> He made many a brag, and we did him. >>> >>>>> You're a lying piece of shit. >>>> >>>> Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a >>>> factual rebuttal eh? >>> >>> Are you talking to me, or yourself? >>> >>> You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting for >>> a >>>single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. >>> >>> Same as always. >>> >>>>> Nothing new there. >>> >>>> Check :-) >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>> Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you >>>> care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for >>>> Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards >>>> the coalition forces serving in Iraq? >>>> Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you >>>> have never seen it? >>> >>> I saw it before, and ignored it before. >>> >>> Just like now. >>> >>> After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >> Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before >> you answer a simple question. > > Mate, you're the one making the demand. > > And in no different a position. > >> It's just a flimsy and transparent >> pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; > > The answer is simple and straight forward. > > Why would it embarrass me? > >>IOW you're a >> coward. >> Fact duly noted, 'nuff said. > > Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability noted- > nuff said. Popeye has "cut and run" |
| 01 May 2008 03:07:47 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in >> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability noted- >> nuff said. > > Popeye has "cut and run" Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 17:29:23 |
| dechucka |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... > "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> >> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > >>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability noted- >>> nuff said. >> >> Popeye has "cut and run" > > Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. that's my name don't over use it. Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get that name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you popeye,?you're not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you are very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc |
| 01 May 2008 03:44:18 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... >> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> >>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>> in >> >>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability noted- >>>> nuff said. >>> >>> Popeye has "cut and run" >> >> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. > > > that's my name don't over use it. > > Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the Usenet > when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get that name in > the first place?. You're not stalking me are you popeye,?you're not weird > are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you are very > strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc Um, no Futile Dave. -You- sent me your name. Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc ". Stupid, stupid, stupid. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 18:02:50 |
| dechucka |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... > "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> >> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in >> message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... >>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>> >>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>>> in >>> >>>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability >>>>> noted- nuff said. >>>> >>>> Popeye has "cut and run" >>> >>> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. >> >> >> that's my name don't over use it. >> >> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the >> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get that >> name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you popeye,?you're >> not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you are >> very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc > > > Um, no Futile Dave. > > -You- sent me your name. > > Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. > > Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs > etc ". > > Stupid, stupid, stupid. Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD |
| 01 May 2008 05:25:34 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message news:48197929$0$26581$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > message news:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... >> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> >>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>> in message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... >>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>> >>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>>>> in >>>> >>>>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability >>>>>> noted- nuff said. >>>>> >>>>> Popeye has "cut and run" >>>> >>>> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. >>> >>> >>> that's my name don't over use it. >>> >>> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the >>> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get that >>> name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you popeye,?you're >>> not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you are >>> very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc >> >> >> Um, no Futile Dave. >> >> -You- sent me your name. >> >> Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. >> >> Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs >> etc ". >> >> Stupid, stupid, stupid. > > Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A > SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD Whhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 05:39:29 |
| JOF |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Apr 30, 10:56=A0pm, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.free.fr > wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > > > > > > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message > >news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... > >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > >> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message > >>>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... > > >>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick"= > >>>> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > >>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message > >>>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... > >>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederic= k" > >>>>>> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Today's Quotes: > >>>>>> snip a few good quotes > > >>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the popu= lace > >>>>>>> alarmed - > >>>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an > >>>>>>>endless > >>>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. > >>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 > > >>>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective > > >>>>>> snip > > >>>>> =A0When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, = and > >>>>> have > >>>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. > > >>>>> =A0Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. > > >>>>> =A0Going on for years now. > >>>>>-- > >>>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells > >>>> raining down on American cities. > > >>> =A0 =A0That's patently ridiculous. > > >>> =A0 =A0I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack.= > > >>> =A0 =A0Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. > > >>> =A0 =A0I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply igno= red, > >>> and, > >>>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bom= b. > > >> Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of > >> the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not > >> them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. > > > =A0And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked > >anybody. :-) > > >>> =A0 =A0It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and > >>>superstitions. > >> WTF are you talking about? > > > =A0Uh-huh. > > >>>>We all know how credible that threat > >>>> was. > >>>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious= . > > >>> =A0Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. > > >> Remember writing? > >> "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times > >> Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" > > > =A0I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. > > > =A0Let's see you prove your accusation. > > >>>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you > >>>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH > >>>> were behind the 9/11 attack. =A0Somehow, at this point in time, I > >>>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. > > >>> =A0It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA= > >>>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. > > >> I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket > >> all) I was just wondering what your position was. > > > =A0I can read. > > > =A0The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it = up > >but the Bushaters. > > >>> =A0I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to > >>> justify > >>>the invasion. > > >> What real justification was there for the invasion then? > > > =A0You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- > > > =A0Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets = that > >Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that > >everyone seems to slide past. > > > =A0But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for= > >having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually got= ten > >around to- > > > =A0He made many a brag, and we did him. > > >>> =A0You're a lying piece of shit. > > >> Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a > >> factual rebuttal eh? > > > =A0Are you talking to me, or yourself? > > > =A0You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting fo= r a > >single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. > > > =A0Same as always. > > >>> =A0Nothing new there. > > >> Check :-) > > >>>-- > >> Well since you seem to be following this particular thread =A0would you= > >> care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for > >> Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards > >> the coalition forces serving in Iraq? > >> Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you > >> have never seen it? > > > =A0I saw it before, and ignored it before. > > > =A0Just like now. > > > =A0After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. > > >-- > > Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before > you answer a simple question. It's just a flimsy and transparent > pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; =A0IOW you're a > coward. > Fact duly noted, 'nuff said.- John, John, John - Popeye and his little tribe only pose questions (over and over and over and over ad nauseum). There's little point in bothering to answer. They only swear and bluster a lot when things threaten to get challenging cerebrally, like having to handle a reasoned response. Don't expect much from them in the way of rational discourse. Remember, they're the intellectually advantaged ones here as they're all armed and you're not, I assume. You sound kinda too dumb and cowardly to go about with a gun tucked between yer butt cheeks all the time. 8) JF |
| 01 May 2008 22:37:11 |
| dechucka |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote in message news:sNadnd6adNoMEYTVnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@supernews.com... > "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > news:48197929$0$26581$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> >> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in >> message news:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... >>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>> >>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>>> in message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... >>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> >>>>>> wrote in >>>>> >>>>>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability >>>>>>> noted- nuff said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Popeye has "cut and run" >>>>> >>>>> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. >>>> >>>> >>>> that's my name don't over use it. >>>> >>>> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the >>>> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get >>>> that name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you >>>> popeye,?you're not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you >>>> did unless you are very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on >>>> trucky drugs etc >>> >>> >>> Um, no Futile Dave. >>> >>> -You- sent me your name. >>> >>> Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. >>> >>> Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs >>> etc ". >>> >>> Stupid, stupid, stupid. >> >> Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A >> SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD > > > > Whhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't cry I'm sure most people you meet are ruder to you than me |
| 01 May 2008 05:41:10 |
| JOF |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On May 1, 3:07=A0am, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > =A0 Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. Classic comeback. JF |
| 01 May 2008 05:42:31 |
| JOF |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On May 1, 5:25=A0am, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:48197929$0$26581$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > > > > > > > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote i= n > > messagenews:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... > >> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > >>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote= > >>> in messagenews:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... > >>>> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > >>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wro= te > >>>>> in > > >>>>>> =A0Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability > >>>>>> noted- nuff said. > > >>>>> Popeye has "cut and run" > > >>>> =A0Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. > > >>> that's my name don't over use it. > > >>> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the > >>> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get th= at > >>> name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you popeye,?you'r= e > >>> not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you a= re > >>> very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc > > >> =A0Um, no Futile Dave. > > >> =A0-You- sent me your name. > > >> =A0Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. > > >> =A0Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky dru= gs > >> etc ". > > >> =A0Stupid, stupid, stupid. > > > Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A > > SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD > > =A0 Whhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!=AD!! > > =A0 STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. You're really starting to sound like Grade One dude. JF |
| 01 May 2008 08:42:47 |
| Lee Bell |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
> You're not stalking me are you popeye,? Count your blessings that he's not that kind of person. If he were stalking you, he would have caught up with you. |
| 01 May 2008 08:54:50 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com > wrote in message news:65fabf00-a3bf-4b05-ac90-ed72057d7004@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On May 1, 5:25 am, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:48197929$0$26581$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > > > > > > > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote > > in > > messagenews:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... > >> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > >>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote > >>> in messagenews:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... > >>>> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > >>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > >>>>> wrote > >>>>> in > > >>>>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability > >>>>>> noted- nuff said. > > >>>>> Popeye has "cut and run" > > >>>> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. > > >>> that's my name don't over use it. > > >>> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the > >>> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get > >>> that > >>> name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you > >>> popeye,?you're > >>> not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you did unless you > >>> are > >>> very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs etc > > >> Um, no Futile Dave. > > >> -You- sent me your name. > > >> Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. > > >> Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs > >> etc ". > > >> Stupid, stupid, stupid. > > > Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A > > SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD > > Whhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. You're really starting to sound like Grade One dude. Like I do with you, I like to fit the response to the intellect. It's about time you showed up to pivot for your buddy, he's failing fast. I know how proud you are of him, making 60-70 posts of accusations without a single relevant cite. Looks like he's snatched the pebbles from your hand. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 08:55:33 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com > wrote in message news:108c0bb1-894b-4f03-871b-e19a1c8858f7@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On May 1, 3:07 am, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com > wrote: > Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. Classic comeback. It's been working on you for years. Run along, -boy-. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 09:02:58 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com > wrote in message news:dcb6a52d-c08f-4f23-92df-cec35a89587d@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Apr 30, 10:56 pm, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.free.fr > wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > > Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before > you answer a simple question. It's just a flimsy and transparent > pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; IOW you're a > coward. > Fact duly noted, 'nuff said.- John, John, John - Popeye and his little tribe only pose questions (over and over and over and over ad nauseum). There's little point in bothering to answer. They only swear and bluster a lot when things threaten to get challenging cerebrally, like having to handle a reasoned response. Don't expect much from them in the way of rational discourse. Like you're getting from David Maddin, and bullying him about? And slithering from, on your belly? The Team Futile Low Crawl. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Remember, they're the intellectually advantaged ones here as they're all armed and you're not, I assume. You sound kinda too dumb and cowardly to go about with a gun tucked between yer butt cheeks all the time. 8) What a fine opportunity. Let's see if you agree with me, or your yesman. Do you see a picture of my truck here? Yes or no? http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762/Alaska07a/photo#5081930978033907522 Stupid, Stupid, Stupid Futile Dave says no. How about here, Mr. Answer Man: http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 Yes or no? This should be good. I can't wait to see you dance. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 09:04:40 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message news:4819b975$0$26598$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > message news:sNadnd6adNoMEYTVnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@supernews.com... >> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:48197929$0$26581$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> >>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>> in message news:geWdnXeurcFI6YTVnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@supernews.com... >>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:48197152$0$26569$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>> >>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote >>>>> in message news:p_2dnXC_3JnY8YTVnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@supernews.com... >>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:48193e48$0$26570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> >>>>>>> wrote in >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your "version" of logic extension and critical thinking ability >>>>>>>> noted- nuff said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Popeye has "cut and run" >>>>>> >>>>>> Futile Dave Frank is stupid, stupid, stupid. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> that's my name don't over use it. >>>>> >>>>> Isn't it weird for someone to post the real name of a poster on the >>>>> Usenet when they are using a nickname, isn't it weird to go and get >>>>> that name in the first place?. You're not stalking me are you >>>>> popeye,?you're not weird are you?, why would you want to do what you >>>>> did unless you are very strange, paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on >>>>> trucky drugs etc >>>> >>>> >>>> Um, no Futile Dave. >>>> >>>> -You- sent me your name. >>>> >>>> Because you're Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. >>>> >>>> Apparently your were "paranoid, a moron, hallucinating on trucky drugs >>>> etc ". >>>> >>>> Stupid, stupid, stupid. >>> >>> Ok you are all of the above that I called you.WEIRD AND STRANGE AND A >>> SOUGHT OF A STALKER YOU ARE WEIRD >> >> >> >> Whhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > don't cry I'm sure most people you meet are ruder to you than me Stupid, Stupid, Stupid isn't rude, dude. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
| 01 May 2008 16:36:10 |
| Grumman-581 |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Thu, 01 May 2008 09:02:58 -0400, Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote: > Do you see a picture of my truck here? Yes or no? > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762/Alaska07a/photo#5081930978033907522 A little cropping makes for a better photo... http://i31.tinypic.com/259zm9z.jpg -- See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. |
| 01 May 2008 22:39:54 |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
In article <H9SdnQ9uBpcYIoTVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@supernews.com >, Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com says... > "JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:dcb6a52d-c08f-4f23-92df-cec35a89587d@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 30, 10:56 pm, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" > > > > > Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before > > you answer a simple question. It's just a flimsy and transparent > > pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; IOW you're a > > coward. > > Fact duly noted, 'nuff said.- > > John, John, John - Popeye and his little tribe only pose questions > (over and over and over and over ad nauseum). There's little point in > bothering to answer. They only swear and bluster a lot when things > threaten to get challenging cerebrally, like having to handle a > reasoned response. Don't expect much from them in the way of rational > discourse. jof, you would not recognize thinking and reasoning if they bit you, which they frequently do here. they only confuse you further. you should only be able to think half as well as doug does. sad, but even that is far beyond your reach. |
| 03 May 2008 04:05:55 |
| John R. Macdonald |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
On Thu, 1 May 2008 05:39:29 -0700 (PDT), JOF <jofrancis@gmail.com > wrote: >On Apr 30, 10:56 pm, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> >wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:24 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> >> >> >> >> >> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >> >news:t5ic14p1n500pm64vvfh55p53hdvsfrkd0@4ax.com... >> >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:00:13 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> >> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >> >>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >> >>>news:t5r91454umtnpiu05iam8tbi5rblisofth@4ax.com... >> >> >>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:41:42 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> >>>> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>"John R. Macdonald" <scubaj...@remove.free.fr> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:22k614lgjhg1271c2ckj12vp0qsdfbk8v5@4ax.com... >> >>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:10:05 -0400, "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" >> >>>>>> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> Today's Quotes: >> >>>>>> snip a few good quotes >> >> >>>>>>> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace >> >>>>>>> alarmed - >> >>>>>>>and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an >> >>>>>>>endless >> >>>>>>>series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. >> >>>>>>> - Henry Louis Mencken, 1880 - 1956 >> >> >>>>>> Well you're living proof practical politics are effective >> >> >>>>>> snip >> >> >>>>> When in fact, I've voiced that same sentiment a number of times, and >> >>>>> have >> >>>>>stated that I'm not alarmed about much. >> >> >>>>> Here's a nice attack that was precipitated by nothing at all. >> >> >>>>> Going on for years now. >> >>>>>-- >> >>>> Some time ago you were scared shitless at the idea of Iraqi shells >> >>>> raining down on American cities. >> >> >>> That's patently ridiculous. >> >> >>> I've never been the least bit afraid of -any- terrorist attack. >> >> >>> Nor am I, for the ones inevitably to come. >> >> >>> I've stated that the North Koreans are a joke, best simply ignored, >> >>> and, >> >>>that there's really no coherent reason that Iran shouldn't have the Bomb. >> >> >> Yeah it's a bit difficult for the Western world to tell the rest of >> >> the world that it is okay for the West to have nuclear weapons but not >> >> them. People start muttering about double standards and hypocrisy. >> >> > And don't forget- we're the only one that's ever (gleefully) nuked >> >anybody. :-) >> >> >>> It's, you, sir, that is the product of your prejudices and >> >>>superstitions. >> >> WTF are you talking about? >> >> > Uh-huh. >> >> >>>>We all know how credible that threat >> >>>> was. >> >>>> I remembered that particular post of yours as it was rather hilarious. >> >> >>> Then I'm sure you can whip it right up. >> >> >> Remember writing? >> >> "And I assure you that when one of those shels careens into Times >> >> Square or downtown L.A. on New Year's Eve" >> >> > I know -exactly- what I wrote, and to who, and why, and when. >> >> > Let's see you prove your accusation. >> >> >>>> I can't be bothered to go through your previous posts to see if you >> >>>> believed the lies of the Bush administration saying that Iraq and SH >> >>>> were behind the 9/11 attack. Somehow, at this point in time, I >> >>>> suspect you'll say that you never believed them. >> >> >>> It's easier for a European piece of shit like you, with a career AA >> >>>posting sentiment, to believe that all Americans did. >> >> >> I know some did, some still do and some don't. (see, not a blanket >> >> all) I was just wondering what your position was. >> >> > I can read. >> >> > The question was answered before it was asked, and, no one brings it up >> >but the Bushaters. >> >> >>> I never have, have stated so here, and never needed that point to >> >>> justify >> >>>the invasion. >> >> >> What real justification was there for the invasion then? >> >> > You misunderstand- WMD was a -credible- reason for invasion- >> >> > Beyond all the Bushate hype and "Bush Lied!" cries, everyone forgets that >> >Saddam lied and implied as well, and had a documented track record that >> >everyone seems to slide past. >> >> > But there were many other reasons to invade, and we're better off for >> >having done it that to wait and see what Saddam would have eventually gotten >> >around to- >> >> > He made many a brag, and we did him. >> >> >>> You're a lying piece of shit. >> >> >> Cite? Nothing like an ad hominem attack when you can't come up with a >> >> factual rebuttal eh? >> >> > Are you talking to me, or yourself? >> >> > You made the attack, I rebutted with fact, and we're still waiting for a >> >single cite for you to prove what you issued as ad-hom. >> >> > Same as always. >> >> >>> Nothing new there. >> >> >> Check :-) >> >> >>>-- >> >> Well since you seem to be following this particular thread would you >> >> care to answer my question concerning Bush's joke about searching for >> >> Iraqi WMDs under the White House furniture. Was it respectful towards >> >> the coalition forces serving in Iraq? >> >> Will you answer the question or run away from it pretending that you >> >> have never seen it? >> >> > I saw it before, and ignored it before. >> >> > Just like now. >> >> > After you get a cite or two, maybe I'll give you an answer. >> >> >-- >> >> Mate, you are not in a position to demand I jump through hoops before >> you answer a simple question. It's just a flimsy and transparent >> pretext not to answer a question that embarrasses you; IOW you're a >> coward. >> Fact duly noted, 'nuff said.- > >John, John, John - Popeye and his little tribe only pose questions >(over and over and over and over ad nauseum). There's little point in >bothering to answer. They only swear and bluster a lot when things >threaten to get challenging cerebrally, like having to handle a >reasoned response. Don't expect much from them in the way of rational >discourse. Remember, they're the intellectually advantaged ones here >as they're all armed and you're not, I assume. You sound kinda too >dumb and cowardly to go about with a gun tucked between yer butt >cheeks all the time. 8) > >JF Not to worry. This isn't my first exchange with Popeye and his minions. I'm familiar with their M.O. Notice how, after people pointed out that the USA didn't own the moon contrary to what he claimed, our friend Popeye (a.k.a. "within one year WMDs will be found in Iraq") dropped the subject like a hot potato without even a 'oops I was mistaken on this particular subject'? I know that bullying, blustering and personal attacks are their standard answers when faced with unpleasant facts they can't refute. Not to mention the xenophobia fueled by ignorance and contempt of all things foreign. The funny thing is that it is okay for these red blooded chauvinistic American chest thumpers to criticise foreigners and advocate their wholescale destruction but the reverse is considered as unbecoming criminal behaviour!! Yes, you are right I'm not armed. There's no real need for it where I live. I guess there must be something really wrong with the European way of life, you can go around without needing to be armed :-) I'm not saying there is no violence or crime, there is unfortunately, but not on the same scale as the US and that is a good thing. . John |
| 03 May 2008 07:25:34 |
| Douglas W. Popeye Frederick |
| Re: Today's Quotes: |
"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.free.fr > wrote in message news:ih8n145cb9m9p8rnfi5mihrs4m3ktcm4mn@4ax.com... > On Thu, 1 May 2008 05:39:29 -0700 (PDT), JOF <jofrancis@gmail.com> >>JF > > Not to worry. This isn't my first exchange with Popeye and his > minions. I'm familiar with their M.O. > Notice how, after people pointed out that the USA didn't own the moon > contrary to what he claimed, our friend Popeye (a.k.a. "within one > year WMDs will be found in Iraq") dropped the subject like a hot > potato without even a 'oops I was mistaken on this particular > subject'? I hate to trivialize your Usenet coup, but it was a joking excuse to post a funny t-shirt URL. That you were xenophobic enough to search international treaties to refute my grand claim "says more about you that me", as Futile John would say. As far as WMD in Iraq, you were one of the many that could have bet me $1000 that I was wrong, and didn't. What a pussy. And not just that, but, out $1000 bucks, too, for your moral and intellectual cowardice. > I know that bullying, blustering and personal attacks are their > standard answers when faced with unpleasant facts they can't refute. > Not to mention the xenophobia fueled by ignorance and contempt of all > things foreign. > The funny thing is that it is okay for these red blooded chauvinistic > American chest thumpers to criticise foreigners and advocate their > wholescale destruction but the reverse is considered as unbecoming > criminal behaviour!! > Yes, you are right I'm not armed. There's no real need for it where I > live. I guess there must be something really wrong with the European > way of life, you can go around without needing to be armed :-) Like in the 40's. Or where mobs of youth roam the entire country for weeks burning cars by the thousands, unopposed by terrified authorities. Where racial bigotry, and particularly anti-Semitism, are at an all time high. Where ethnic cleansing and genocide are committed in neighboring countries. -That- European way of life? http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/266umtwb.asp > I'm not saying there is no violence or crime, there is unfortunately, > but not on the same scale as the US and that is a good thing. Oh, but it's coming. And we aren't. -- -- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com |
