29 Apr 2008 11:32:50
taichiskiing
Making lines

Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4

Have fun, :)
IS


29 Apr 2008 11:47:24
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 11:32 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> Have fun, :)
> IS

Wow. You can make perty lines on groomed snoozers. So can 75 percent
of the people on this newsgroup. <yawn >.


29 Apr 2008 12:01:15
The Real Bev
Re: Making lines

Yabahoobs wrote:

> On Apr 29, 11:32 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> Wow. You can make perty lines on groomed snoozers. So can 75 percent
> of the people on this newsgroup. <yawn>.

In earlier times actual film would have been wasted to record that. We
are indeed fortunate that only electrons were used to immortalize that
sequence. And HD space, of course. Anybody know how long youtube keeps
this stuff alive?

--
Cheers, Bev
**********************************************
"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
never experienced any prob


29 Apr 2008 12:23:02
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 12:01 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Yabahoobs wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 11:32 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > Wow. You can make perty lines on groomed snoozers. So can 75 percent
> > of the people on this newsgroup. <yawn>.
>
> In earlier times actual film would have been wasted to record that. We
> are indeed fortunate that only electrons were used to immortalize that
> sequence. And HD space, of course. Anybody know how long youtube keeps
> this stuff alive?
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> **********************************************
> "I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
> never experienced any prob

If it's for five minutes after he posted it...It's too long.


29 Apr 2008 16:00:14
pigo
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 1:23=A0pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 12:01 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yabahoobs wrote:
> > > On Apr 29, 11:32 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,http://www.youtube.com/watc=
h?v=3DNcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > Wow. =A0You can make perty lines on groomed snoozers. =A0So can 75 per=
cent
> > > of the people on this newsgroup. =A0<yawn>.
>
> > In earlier times actual film would have been wasted to record that. =A0W=
e
> > are indeed fortunate that only electrons were used to immortalize that
> > sequence. =A0And HD space, of course. =A0Anybody know how long youtube k=
eeps
> > this stuff alive?
>
> > --
> > Cheers, Bev
> > **********************************************
> > "I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
> > =A0 never experienced any prob
>
> If it's for five minutes after he posted it...It's too long.- Hide quoted =
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
the entire way except for the few feet at the transition point from
edge to edge. But even that is pretty boring. 205's make it a little
more fun (and fast!).


29 Apr 2008 17:45:21
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 1:23 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 12:01 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yabahoobs wrote:
> > > > On Apr 29, 11:32 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > > Wow. You can make perty lines on groomed snoozers. So can 75 percent
> > > > of the people on this newsgroup. <yawn>.
>
> > > In earlier times actual film would have been wasted to record that. We
> > > are indeed fortunate that only electrons were used to immortalize that
> > > sequence. And HD space, of course. Anybody know how long youtube keeps
> > > this stuff alive?
>
> > > --
> > > Cheers, Bev
> > > **********************************************
> > > "I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
> > > never experienced any prob
>
> > If it's for five minutes after he posted it...It's too long.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> the entire way except for the few feet at the transition point from
> edge to edge. But even that is pretty boring. 205's make it a little
> more fun (and fast!).

Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.


29 Apr 2008 21:25:10
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 5:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > the entire way except for the few feet at the transition point from
> > edge to edge. But even that is pretty boring. 205's make it a little
> > more fun (and fast!).
>
> Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.

Well, pretty much anything you do down a groomed snoozer is an
exercise in vanity, unless you are a beginner, making it an exercise
in terror.

I would be trying to leave trenches in a trail like that, which, in
addition to being an exercise in vanity, also creates a hazard for the
inept and unexperienced. Some might argue that my skiing is more
"functional" than Itchy-scratchy's, but really it's not. I always
overcommit to the fall line, to my edges, to the carve, when really I
can get by with less. It's just so damned fun to be out of balance,
knowing you can pull it together with a twitch of your skis.

Don't you think it's nice that Itchy's found a way to get his groove
on? And that he's willing to share it with us?

We should all have such dedication to our personal style.


30 Apr 2008 09:18:05
pigo
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 10:25=A0pm, Not That Dave <3l30N...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 5:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > > the entire way except for the few feet at the transition point from
> > > edge to edge. But even that is pretty boring. 205's make it a little
> > > more fun (and fast!).
>
> > Totally agree. =A0Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. =A0A boring one too.
>
> Well, pretty much anything you do down a groomed snoozer is an
> exercise in vanity, unless you are a beginner, making it an exercise
> in terror.

It is hard to determine the tilt on that slope. Given what I know of
his "technique", and the fact that he only slid the turns a few feet,
probably not much. But the turns that I had in mind on a slope like
Sunnyside at PCMR would have you going somewhere over 50 mph in my
estimation. A slope that looked pretty smooth develops some pretty
good rollers going that fast. The run also ends at the bottom onto an
almost 90 deg. turn onto a cat track. Which also added some interest
at high speed.

> I would be trying to leave trenches in a trail like that, which, in
> addition to being an exercise in vanity, also creates a hazard for the
> inept and unexperienced. Some might argue that my skiing is more
> "functional" than Itchy-scratchy's, but really it's not. =A0I always
> overcommit to the fall line, to my edges, to the carve, when really I
> can get by with less. =A0It's just so damned fun to be out of balance,
> knowing you can pull it together with a twitch of your skis.

I guess I didn't go into enough detail. I was amazed that someone
would post proudly the tracks of such an intermediate technique. My
two thin lines also turned into trenches at the apex of the turn if
the snow was as soft as it appeared in that video.

The hardest part was trying to keep from getting thrown out of the
turn by the centrifugal force, and trying not to think about what
would happen if you did. Plus skiing all the time with bindings set to
handle that force.

> Don't you think it's nice that Itchy's found a way to get his groove
> on? And that he's willing to share it with us?

I suppose it is. I think that the problem is the way he presents it. I
wouldn't have a problem if he had more of a "look at what a goofy,
unorthadox way I have found to have fun" attitude. But I think he
tries to present it as a possible alternative or actual legitimate way
to get the most out of your skiing. It just isn't.

> We should all have such dedication to our personal style.

I do. But mine works. If I was still slipping the flats like that
without the ability to ski it I wouldn't like it. I must say that
these days I do ski those runs that way when with beginners in order
to keep the pressure of wedging down that shit to a minimum. It hurts
to do that.



30 Apr 2008 13:11:35
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On Apr 30, 9:18=A0am, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > We should all have such dedication to our personal style.
>
> I do. But mine works. If I was still slipping the flats like that
> without the ability to ski it I wouldn't like it. I must say that
> these days I do ski those runs that way when with beginners in order
> to keep the pressure of wedging down that shit to a minimum. It hurts
> to do that.

I confess that I have made nice knees-together tracks down a blue
cruiser when the conditions are right - quick snow, light traffic, and
fresh snow or untracked groom down along the lift line, and then check
out my tracks on the next ride up to see if they look as good as they
felt.

But I don't take a video and post it on youtube as if it were an
athletic breakthrough.



30 Apr 2008 14:11:08
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On Apr 30, 1:11 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com > wrote:

> But I don't take a video and post it on youtube as if it were an
> athletic breakthrough.

Let alone a breakthrough having anything, at all, to do with 'eastern'
spirituality.



30 Apr 2008 15:28:37
Armin
Re: Making lines

Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.

This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
not too cold and perfect powder conditions.

http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg



01 May 2008 00:26:46
lal_truckee
Re: Making lines

Armin wrote:
> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>
> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>
> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg

Were you flatboarding?


01 May 2008 00:27:37
lal_truckee
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:
> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> Have fun, :)
> IS

nice camera


30 Apr 2008 19:02:57
klaus
Re: Making lines

Armin <meanon@telus.net > wrote:
> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>
> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>
> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg
>

Now *that*, is an enlightening line. Good work.

-klaus


30 Apr 2008 19:14:26
DaveM
Re: Making lines

Things must have stabilized nicely then. Wern't too much skiing 'round
there when we were up.

Nice shot too.

Dave M

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:32:50 -0700 (PDT), taichiskiing
<thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
>Have fun, :)
>IS


01 May 2008 09:58:18
BrritSki
Re: Making lines

klaus wrote:
> Armin <meanon@telus.net> wrote:
>> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>>
>> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
>> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
>> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
>> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg
>>
>
> Now *that*, is an enlightening line. Good work.
>
Turned my thigh muscles to jelly just looking at it :)


01 May 2008 21:20:41
ant
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:
> Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4

The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place. There's
smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more than
the other. I guess getting them to go at all on such a flat-looking slope
is worthy of note.

--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




01 May 2008 21:59:07
ant
Re: Making lines

Armin wrote:
> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>
> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>
> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg

Pretty picture, doesn't look like spring at all. Down must have been pretty
exciting...

--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




01 May 2008 07:42:57
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > the entire way. But even that is pretty boring.

Yup, "except for the few feet at the transition point from edge to
edge" is what makes it boring, as separate the skis at the transition
is what breaks the flow of the skiing. Try to make two thin lines
together all the way next time; it is faster and more exciting.

And as the integrity thing goes, before you can make that line, you
may not qualify, for lacking of real experience, to comment it.

> > 205's make it a little
> > more fun (and fast!).

If you cannot tell the speed of skiing by looking at the lines/tracks
that the skier left behind, you are not there at the level we are
talking about.

Nevertheless, what do you mean by "fun" in skiing again?

>
> Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.

Boring person, boring mind?

:)
IS


01 May 2008 07:49:19
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk >
wrote:
> taichiskiing wrote:
> > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place. There's
> smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more than
> the other.

Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
"line" shown.

> I guess getting them to go at all on such a flat-looking slope
> is worthy of note.

Or you don't know how to read video clips is worth the note?

:)
IS

>
> --
> ant


01 May 2008 07:50:12
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:

> > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> Boring person, boring mind?
>
A commonly used and and pathetic cop-out. I simply find your
incredible egotistic bravado about this ''technique'' of yours rather
unimpressive. You prioritize style over substance.

I'd much rather find my own way of getting down (and up) a line like
the one Armin posted above in this thread, rather than obsess over the
aethetics of my lines on a groomed snoozer. No matter what the lines
look like...It's still a groomed snoozer.






01 May 2008 08:07:04
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:49=A0am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNcDsmw13aC4
>
> > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place. Ther=
e's
> > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more t=
han
> > the other.
>
> Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> "line" shown.

Yes there is.

> > =A0I guess getting them to go at all on such a flat-looking slope
> > is worthy of note.
>
> Or you don't know how to read video clips is worth the note?

Projection.


01 May 2008 08:08:29
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:42=A0am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:

> Boring person, boring mind?

Ah, I see your are starting to "get it".



01 May 2008 09:22:11
Armin
Re: Making lines

On Apr 30, 5:26=A0pm, lal_truckee <lal_truc...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Armin wrote:
> > Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>
> > This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
> > up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
> > April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
> > not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>
> >http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg
>
> Were you flatboarding?

I can truthfully state that once I dropped off the ridge I never set
an edge unitl I got to the bottom... it was bottomless powder all the
way! ;-)


01 May 2008 09:25:33
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 6:50 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> A commonly used and and pathetic cop-out.

No, as I told you before,

"Boring" is only a subjective perception, and it reflects your inner
state of mind. And a boring mind makes a boring view, and boring views
make up a boring person."

> I simply find your
> incredible egotistic bravado about this ''technique'' of yours rather
> unimpressive. You prioritize style over substance.

Well, as I said, Taichi Skiing is applying Taichi principles to
skiing, and Taichi principles are all-inclusive (it covers everything
under the "sky"), so it is ultimate. The philosophy end of Taichi,
Unism, is beyond your comprehension, so I'm not going to waste my
energy to explain it. Nevertheless, the proof lies in those lines.

Taichi Skiing's techniques are developed based on Taichi principles
and verified with Newton's laws of motions; the "clean" lines show the
proof of the validity of the theories, as well as the techniques.
Maybe these techniques are "too good to be humble" to you gappers,
nevertheless, there's no ego involved. Your "unimpressive" only
reflects your own "incredible egotistic bravado."

>
> I'd much rather find my own way of getting down (and up) a line like
> the one Armin posted above in this thread, rather than obsess over the
> aethetics of my lines on a groomed snoozer.

It'll be more impressive if you can make down in "one" *clean
aesthetic* line down.

> No matter what the lines
> look like...It's still a groomed snoozer.

Your boring view it is.

:)
IS


01 May 2008 09:27:28
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:08 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 7:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> Ah, I see your are starting to "get it".

Yup, you're as a boring person as ever.

:)
IS


01 May 2008 09:30:47
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place. There's
> > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more than
> > > the other.
>
> > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > "line" shown.
>
> Yes there is.

Prove it!

>
> > > I guess getting them to go at all on such a flat-looking slope
> > > is worthy of note.
>
> > Or you don't know how to read video clips is worth the note?
>
> Projection.

No, you need to learn how to "read" a video clip.

:)
IS


01 May 2008 09:32:40
pigo
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 8:42=A0am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > > the entire way. But even that is pretty boring.
>
> Yup, "except for the few feet at the transition point from edge to
> edge" is what makes it boring, as separate the skis at the transition
> is what breaks the flow of the skiing. Try to make two thin lines
> together all the way next time; it is faster and more exciting.
>
> And as the integrity thing goes, before you can make that line, you
> may not qualify, for lacking of real experience, to comment it.
>
> > > 205's make it a little
> > > more fun (and fast!).
>
> If you cannot tell the speed of skiing by looking at the lines/tracks
> that the skier left behind, you are not there at the level we are
> talking about.

With all the skidding in that video it had to be SLOW.

> Nevertheless, what do you mean by "fun" in skiing again?
>
>
>
> > Totally agree. =A0Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. =A0A boring one too.

I don't make them "close together" btw. I'm kind of a shoulder width
kind 'o' guy.

> Boring person, boring mind?

I can't believe I even reply to you. You are as hopeless as barf
trying to convince us that he misunderstood the trunkyjeff thing. But
Yab had something for me to clear up on this one.


01 May 2008 09:59:29
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:25 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 1, 6:50 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > > > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> > > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> > A commonly used and and pathetic cop-out.
>
> No, as I told you before,
>
> "Boring" is only a subjective perception, and it reflects your inner
> state of mind. And a boring mind makes a boring view, and boring views
> make up a boring person."

LOL.
>
> > I simply find your
> > incredible egotistic bravado about this ''technique'' of yours rather
> > unimpressive. You prioritize style over substance.
>
> Well, as I said, Taichi Skiing is applying Taichi principles to
> skiing, and Taichi principles are all-inclusive (it covers everything
> under the "sky"), so it is ultimate. The philosophy end of Taichi,
> Unism, is beyond your comprehension, so I'm not going to waste my
> energy to explain it. Nevertheless, the proof lies in those lines.

The proof of your priorities when on skis is what lies in those
lines.
>
> Taichi Skiing's techniques are developed based on Taichi principles
> and verified with Newton's laws of motions; the "clean" lines show the
> proof of the validity of the theories, as well as the techniques.

It is not a technique. You have done precisely NOTHING to prove
otherwise. It is trumped up grandiosity. Nothing more. No response
to this will disprove the FACT that your ''technique'' is utter fluff.

> Maybe these techniques are "too good to be humble" to you gappers,
> nevertheless, there's no ego involved. Your "unimpressive" only
> reflects your own "incredible egotistic bravado."
>
>
>
> > I'd much rather find my own way of getting down (and up) a line like
> > the one Armin posted above in this thread, rather than obsess over the
> > aethetics of my lines on a groomed snoozer.
>
> It'll be more impressive if you can make down in "one" *clean
> aesthetic* line down.

Your obsession with vanity is disgusting.

> Your boring view it is.

LoL. Nice try.
>
> :)
> IS



01 May 2008 10:00:21
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 8:32 am, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > > > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > > > the entire way. But even that is pretty boring.
>
> > Yup, "except for the few feet at the transition point from edge to
> > edge" is what makes it boring, as separate the skis at the transition
> > is what breaks the flow of the skiing. Try to make two thin lines
> > together all the way next time; it is faster and more exciting.
>
> > And as the integrity thing goes, before you can make that line, you
> > may not qualify, for lacking of real experience, to comment it.
>
> > > > 205's make it a little
> > > > more fun (and fast!).
>
> > If you cannot tell the speed of skiing by looking at the lines/tracks
> > that the skier left behind, you are not there at the level we are
> > talking about.
>
> With all the skidding in that video it had to be SLOW.

So you don't know how to read "line"?

>
> > Nevertheless, what do you mean by "fun" in skiing again?
>
> > > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> I don't make them "close together" btw. I'm kind of a shoulder width
> kind 'o' guy.

I figured it; RRT is pretty boring skiing, especially they're widened
during the transitions.

>
> > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> I can't believe I even reply to you. You are as hopeless as barf
> trying to convince us that he misunderstood the trunkyjeff thing. But
> Yab had something for me to clear up on this one.

You may not be convincible, given your current egoistic mind set. Yes,
you need to clean that up before you enable yourself to see it.

And, you didn't answer this one, "what do you mean by "fun" in skiing
again?"

:)
IS


01 May 2008 10:06:21
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:32 am, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 5:00 pm, pigo <bobt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I would consider that kind of skiing on that terrain a failure for
> > > > myself. When I ski turns like that I try to leave two tiny thin lines
> > > > the entire way. But even that is pretty boring.
>
> > Yup, "except for the few feet at the transition point from edge to
> > edge" is what makes it boring, as separate the skis at the transition
> > is what breaks the flow of the skiing. Try to make two thin lines
> > together all the way next time; it is faster and more exciting.
>
> > And as the integrity thing goes, before you can make that line, you
> > may not qualify, for lacking of real experience, to comment it.
>
> > > > 205's make it a little
> > > > more fun (and fast!).
>
> > If you cannot tell the speed of skiing by looking at the lines/tracks
> > that the skier left behind, you are not there at the level we are
> > talking about.
>
> With all the skidding in that video it had to be SLOW.
>
> > Nevertheless, what do you mean by "fun" in skiing again?
>
> > > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> I don't make them "close together" btw. I'm kind of a shoulder width
> kind 'o' guy.
>
> > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> I can't believe I even reply to you. You are as hopeless as barf
> trying to convince us that he misunderstood the trunkyjeff thing. But
> Yab had something for me to clear up on this one.

He's starting to warrant <plonk > status. I have seriously never come
across anyone so incredibly obsessed with his / herself.

In my view, regardless of the spiritual state of mind (or lack there
of), a pair of uniformly close (whether 2 or 12 '' from each other)
offers VERY little to the skiers ability, or skill on a pair of skis.
Obviously you have to reach a certain level...but beyond that (and I
think most of us on here are at that level) it's all just vanity.
People can "go fast" and / or "stick to the fall line" without
maintaining such unnaturally uniform tracks.

If you are comfortable with your tracks (on groomed snoozers) being a
little farther apart then Mr. Holier-than-Thou's...then keep doing
what you're doing. I would guess that you have significantly more fun
and ability on a pair of skis then he ever has or ever will.

I also agree that the degree of skidding in those tracks offers a good
idea to his speed, and it was slow. So the picture we have is a
vanity-obsessed man picking his way down a groomed trail (blue-most
likely). Not very impressive at all.



01 May 2008 10:10:06
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:30 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place. There's
> > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more than
> > > > the other.
>
> > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > "line" shown.
>
> > Yes there is.
>
> Prove it!
>

Look at it. That's the proof. Maybe the air around you is so
polluted with SMUG, it's starting to blur your vision.


01 May 2008 08:26:26
Dave Cartman
Re: Making lines

In article
<e6aff230-a87d-4b33-aa66-d9990da84fd1@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com >,
taichiskiing <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:

> On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
> >
> > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place.
> > > > There's
> > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more
> > > > than
> > > > the other.
> >
> > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > "line" shown.
> >
> > Yes there is.
>
> Prove it!

I'll do more than that. I'll post actual video evidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4

Dave


01 May 2008 11:32:26
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 8:59 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 10:25 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On May 1, 6:50 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 8:42 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Totally agree. Trying to make two infinitely close lines all the way
> > > > > down the groomed snoozer is an exercise in vanity. A boring one too.
>
> > > > Boring person, boring mind?
>
> > > A commonly used and and pathetic cop-out.
>
> > No, as I told you before,
>
> > "Boring" is only a subjective perception, and it reflects your inner
> > state of mind. And a boring mind makes a boring view, and boring views
> > make up a boring person."
>
> LOL.

Yup, it is a good way to cover your embarrassments.

> > > I simply find your
> > > incredible egotistic bravado about this ''technique'' of yours rather
> > > unimpressive. You prioritize style over substance.
>
> > Well, as I said, Taichi Skiing is applying Taichi principles to
> > skiing, and Taichi principles are all-inclusive (it covers everything
> > under the "sky"), so it is ultimate. The philosophy end of Taichi,
> > Unism, is beyond your comprehension, so I'm not going to waste my
> > energy to explain it. Nevertheless, the proof lies in those lines.
>
> The proof of your priorities when on skis is what lies in those
> lines.

Huh?

>
> > Taichi Skiing's techniques are developed based on Taichi principles
> > and verified with Newton's laws of motions; the "clean" lines show the
> > proof of the validity of the theories, as well as the techniques.
>
> It is not a technique. You have done precisely NOTHING to prove
> otherwise. It is trumped up grandiosity. Nothing more. No response
> to this will disprove the FACT that your ''technique'' is utter fluff.

Yup, you got it right, you have done NOTHING to *disprove* my
techniques, but denial grandiosely. Your rebuttal is "utter fluff."

>
> > Maybe these techniques are "too good to be humble" to you gappers,
> > nevertheless, there's no ego involved. Your "unimpressive" only
> > reflects your own "incredible egotistic bravado."
>
> > > I'd much rather find my own way of getting down (and up) a line like
> > > the one Armin posted above in this thread, rather than obsess over the
> > > aethetics of my lines on a groomed snoozer.
>
> > It'll be more impressive if you can make down in "one" *clean
> > aesthetic* line down.
>
> Your obsession with vanity is disgusting.

What you don't know is that the "vanity" is only yours.

Every skiing leaves lines/tracks/marks on the snow and the lines/
tracks/marks all reflect the skiing maneuver forces that acted on it.
And a clean, effective, maneuver force produces a clean line, and a
"clean aesthetic line," ultimately, reflects the "real" level of the
higher skiing. Yes, that'll be a "money" shot; have you seen the
commercials on winter gears lately?

Now, about the "obsession," yes, of course, as VtSkier put it
"addiction," that is one very important driving force in pursuing this
high level, perfection, of skiing. Without it, you don't go anywhere
in "real" skiing.

>
> > Your boring view it is.
>
> LoL. Nice try.

Yup, boring it is.

Gone skiing, :)
IS

>
> > :)
> > IS


01 May 2008 11:38:30
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 12:32 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:

> > LOL.
>
> Yup, it is a good way to cover your embarrassments.

LOL. Whatever helps you sleep at night...well that and you're 8 x 11
portrait of yourself.

> > The proof of your priorities when on skis is what lies in those
> > lines.
>
> Huh?

Try again.

> Yup, you got it right, you have done NOTHING to *disprove* my
> techniques, but denial grandiosely. Your rebuttal is "utter fluff."
>

Spoken like a true parishioner of the church of Scotty. Well done.
LoL !


> > Your obsession with vanity is disgusting.
>
> What you don't know is that the "vanity" is only yours.

LOL !! That must be why you continue post videos of mediocre skiing
it's mediocre tracks.
>

> Now, about the "obsession," yes, of course, as VtSkier put it
> "addiction," that is one very important driving force in pursuing this
> high level, perfection, of skiing. Without it, you don't go anywhere
> in "real" skiing.
>

Thanks for that pathetic diatribe, but I'll leave my definition of
"real" skiing to almost anyone else but you. I again direct you to
Armin's post. Thanks for playing, though.

> Yup, boring it is.

Ok Scott. You can have the last word.

>
> Gone skiing, :)

Scottish for " I win".



01 May 2008 16:35:25
pigo
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 11:06=A0am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
(snipped)
> He's starting to warrant <plonk> status. =A0I have seriously never come
> across anyone so incredibly obsessed with his / herself.

I don't see the need to plonk him. He's got nowhere near the volume
that trunkyjeff does. It is fun to open the group and see literally
hundreds of posts fly off of it. I simply do not usually even read the
ones he sticks his retardedness into.

His idiotic round and round without saying anything even remotely
believable just give me a headache.

> I also agree that the degree of skidding in those tracks offers a good
> idea to his speed, and it was slow. =A0So the picture we have is a
> vanity-obsessed man picking his way down a groomed trail (blue-most
> likely). =A0Not very impressive at all.- Hide quoted text -

Yeah! He's that guy that thinks knowing the line he wishes he could
make makes it so. I can see what he is going for but he's going to
have to learn to hold the edge through a turn and be able to mentally
handle the speed.


01 May 2008 16:49:51
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:26 am, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article
> <e6aff230-a87d-4b33-aa66-d9990da84...@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place.
> > > > > There's
> > > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more
> > > > > than
> > > > > the other.
>
> > > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > > "line" shown.
>
> > > Yes there is.
>
> > Prove it!
>
> I'll do more than that. I'll post actual video evidence!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4

What about?

Ahh... you don't know how to read the line?! Ok, here's some hint: on
the opening of the clip, there are two [obvious] lines in the picture.
The one on the right, which is straighter and consisted of two thin
tracks, is mine; see if you can trace it up. Btw, you may need a high
power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
400 mhz computer.

:)
IS

>
> Dave


02 May 2008 01:43:42
Alan Baker
Re: Making lines

In article
<035a600c-f8d7-487e-94b4-7330b40aa479@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com >,
taichiskiing <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:

> On May 1, 10:26 am, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <e6aff230-a87d-4b33-aa66-d9990da84...@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
> >
> > > > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place.
> > > > > > There's
> > > > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > the other.
> >
> > > > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > > > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > > > "line" shown.
> >
> > > > Yes there is.
> >
> > > Prove it!
> >
> > I'll do more than that. I'll post actual video evidence!
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> What about?
>
> Ahh... you don't know how to read the line?! Ok, here's some hint: on
> the opening of the clip, there are two [obvious] lines in the picture.
> The one on the right, which is straighter and consisted of two thin
> tracks, is mine; see if you can trace it up. Btw, you may need a high
> power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> 400 mhz computer.
>
> :)
> IS
>
> >
> > Dave

And it has obviously skidded turns in it.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."


01 May 2008 18:46:49
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 4:49 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 1, 10:26 am, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <e6aff230-a87d-4b33-aa66-d9990da84...@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place.
> > > > > > There's
> > > > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot more
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > the other.
>
> > > > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need to
> > > > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > > > "line" shown.
>
> > > > Yes there is.
>
> > > Prove it!
>
> > I'll do more than that. I'll post actual video evidence!
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcDsmw13aC4
>
> What about?
>
> Ahh... you don't know how to read the line?! Ok, here's some hint: on
> the opening of the clip, there are two [obvious] lines in the picture.
> The one on the right, which is straighter and consisted of two thin
> tracks, is mine; see if you can trace it up. Btw, you may need a high
> power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> 400 mhz computer.
>
I see the sound of one hand clapping for the tree that fell alone in
forest.

Okay, really I think it's great that you can tie this to a higher
meaning
and all, but it looks like parallel lines to me. And when I think
"parallel
lines" I think of Blondie, and mostly Deborah Harry. So if you could
do this flat boarding thing wearing a blonde wig, then I could tie
this
back to my knowledge of early 80's music, but I'm not spiritual
enough to tie this in to the music of the spheres, or whatever it is
you
are doing.

OTOH, if you could post up some video of you doing the flatboarding
thing wearing a blonde wig and fishnet stockings, I'm pretty sure
everyone would totally groove on it. Especially Brittski, on account
of he's English and that whole country's culture is based on fishnet
stockings and blonde wigs.


01 May 2008 22:08:56
Dave Stallard
Re: Making lines

Armin wrote:
> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>
> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>
> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg

Hey Jeffy, you can ski that one, right? ;)

Dave


01 May 2008 19:23:37
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 6:43 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
>
> And it has obviously skidded turns in it.
>
Well, yeah but that's not the point. The point is that it's tai chi,
dude, and he's leaving lines on the slope.


01 May 2008 19:31:47
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:38 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 12:32 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > LOL.
>
> > Yup, it is a good way to cover your embarrassments.
>
> LOL. Whatever helps you sleep at night...well that and you're 8 x 11
> portrait of yourself.

Actually, I'll sleep well knowing you are beating out of your wit by
your own arguments.

>
> > > The proof of your priorities when on skis is what lies in those
> > > lines.
>
> > Huh?
>
> Try again.

Huh? Reread what you snipped.

>
> > Yup, you got it right, you have done NOTHING to *disprove* my
> > techniques, but denial grandiosely. Your rebuttal is "utter fluff."
>
> Spoken like a true parishioner of the church of Scotty. Well done.
> LoL !

What so funny? You even deny like Scotty.

When you bring up the Scotty style denial/argument, not that you have
already lost the argument, but lost your own character as well. Or
maybe that you've entangled with him that much, he really had a rub on
you?

>
> > > Your obsession with vanity is disgusting.
>
> > What you don't know is that the "vanity" is only yours.
>
> LOL !! That must be why you continue post videos of mediocre skiing
> it's mediocre tracks.

That's only to say that you have a mediocre knowledge on skiing.

> > Now, about the "obsession," yes, of course, as VtSkier put it
> > "addiction," that is one very important driving force in pursuing this
> > high level, perfection, of skiing. Without it, you don't go anywhere
> > in "real" skiing.
>
> Thanks for that pathetic diatribe, but I'll leave my definition of
> "real" skiing to almost anyone else but you.

So, what is your definition of "real" skiing, again?

> I again direct you to
> Armin's post. Thanks for playing, though.

Drawing a line on a picture is easy, but whether or not you can make a
clean line down is a totally different story all together.

>
> > Yup, boring it is.
>
> Ok Scott. You can have the last word.

Last word? No, I don't think we have seen the last of you.

> > Gone skiing, :)

I actually did, it was perfect spring skiing condition, bluebird sky,
light wind, though a bit bumpy in the afternoon, but the snow was
cool, fast, and not sucky. I even made a line for your enjoyment; see
if you can trace the line,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QiW1OYSZpA
line 3

>
> Scottish for " I win".

Your pathetic innuendo.

"When you bring up the Scotty style denial/argument, not that you have
already lost the argument, but lost your own character as well. Or
maybe that you've entangled with him that much, he really had a rub on
you?"

For all those self-righteous displays, now you have to hide behind the
shield of "Scotty," don't you not sick of it?

See you tomorrow in your morning head-banging session.

:)
IS


01 May 2008 19:56:43
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 8:31 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>
> That's only to say that you have a mediocre knowledge on skiing.

Says the man who lives on groomed snoozers.
>
> So, what is your definition of "real" skiing, again?

Do you really need a personal defintion of ''real'' skiing to enjoy
it ? Must you dilute it to some pathetic tag-line for how you view
yourself on skis ?
>
> Drawing a line on a picture is easy, but whether or not you can make a
> clean line down is a totally different story all together.

I'd like to see how clean your line is going down the slope in Armin's
picture. LoL...

>
> > Ok Scott. You can have the last word.
>
Nor will we see the last of your pathetic video-statements equating to
"Hey look at me, I'm cool" videos. How unfortunate.

> > Scottish for " I win".
>
> Your pathetic innuendo.

label it what you want. it is exactly what he does. You brag about
enlightenment, and your superior skiing 'skill'. he brags about free
lift tickets. There isn't a difference.

> snipped pop-psychology, holier-than-thou diatribe...

More pop-psychology from you. You sure are impressed with yourself
aren't you ?
Thanks for playing !




01 May 2008 20:23:19
pigo
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 12:26=A0pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article
> <e6aff230-a87d-4b33-aa66-d9990da84...@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 7:07 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 1, 7:49 am, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 1, 3:20 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk=
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > > > > Lines/tracks of flatboarding/flatskiing 1,
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNcDsmw13aC4
>
> > > > > The lines converge and then diverge, skis going all over the place=
.
> > > > > There's
> > > > > smears, and then 2 lines where one ski was plainly weighted a lot =
more
> > > > > than
> > > > > the other.
>
> > > > Not sure if the conceited self blinded your sight or just you need t=
o
> > > > learn how to read/trace the line first; there's no "diverge" in the
> > > > "line" shown.
>
> > > Yes there is.
>
> > Prove it!
>
> I'll do more than that. =A0I'll post actual video evidence!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNcDsmw13aC4
>
> Dave- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've been looking at this all wrong. I'm sorry. I think what he means
is he's that guy skiing by about 1/2 way through the video! He IS
getting better. Passed trunkyjeff on the skill ladder anyway.


01 May 2008 20:41:54
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 6:56 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:31 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That's only to say that you have a mediocre knowledge on skiing.
>
> Says the man who lives on groomed snoozers.

Says the man who lives on the 'net.

> > So, what is your definition of "real" skiing, again?
>
> Do you really need a personal defintion of ''real'' skiing to enjoy
> it ? Must you dilute it to some pathetic tag-line for how you view
> yourself on skis ?

For sure, without definitions, your English doesn't go anywhere but
confusion.

> > Drawing a line on a picture is easy, but whether or not you can make a
> > clean line down is a totally different story all together.
>
> I'd like to see how clean your line is going down the slope in Armin's
> picture. LoL...

Not sure if you can keep up to see my clean line.

> > > Ok Scott. You can have the last word.
>
> Nor will we see the last of your pathetic video-statements equating to
> "Hey look at me, I'm cool" videos. How unfortunate.

You may feel complacency for your mediocre skiing, but many of us do
intend to "raise the bar" of skiing, fortunately.

>
> > > Scottish for " I win".
>
> > Your pathetic innuendo.
>
> label it what you want. it is exactly what he does. You brag about
> enlightenment, and your superior skiing 'skill'. he brags about free
> lift tickets. There isn't a difference.

Yup, not a bit difference, it remains your pathetic innuendo.

>
> > snipped pop-psychology, holier-than-thou diatribe...

Can't face your own embarrassments?

>
> More pop-psychology from you. You sure are impressed with yourself
> aren't you ?

No, I don't think about myself much, but you apparently do attach to
it a lot.

> Thanks for playing !

You're welcome.

Can't wait for the morning head-banging session, eh?

:)
IS


01 May 2008 20:58:32
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 9:41 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:

> > Do you really need a personal defintion of ''real'' skiing to enjoy
> > it ? Must you dilute it to some pathetic tag-line for how you view
> > yourself on skis ?

Doesn't seem very "tai chi" to me.

> > I'd like to see how clean your line is going down the slope in Armin's
> > picture. LoL...
>
> Not sure if you can keep up to see my clean line.

Another display of your arrogance and monstrous ego. Again doesn't
seem too "tai chi".


>
> You may feel complacency for your mediocre skiing, but many of us do
> intend to "raise the bar" of skiing, fortunately.

WE do. You quibble over your appearance going down groomed snoozers.
If that is truly your goal (and I doubt it is), you've failed
miserably.
>
>
>
> > > > Scottish for " I win".
>
> > > Your pathetic innuendo.
>
> > label it what you want. it is exactly what he does. You brag about
> > enlightenment, and your superior skiing 'skill'. he brags about free
> > lift tickets. There isn't a difference.

And there still remains no differnece between your bragging, and
his...or anyone else's for that matter.
>
>
>
> > > snipped pop-psychology, holier-than-thou diatribe...
>
> Can't face your own embarrassments?

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Keep playing. Your arrogance is fun.


01 May 2008 23:12:19
Jeff Davis
Re: Making lines

In article <alangbaker-AD923D.18434201052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net] >,
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net > wrote:
>
>And it has obviously skidded turns in it.

You're such a shitty skier you had to hang it up when the season was just
getting started. So you opinion means squat- bupkis- nada- Gimp.
--
According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."



01 May 2008 23:13:55
Jeff Davis
Re: Making lines

In article <NL6dnWq9vtwh6ofVnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Dave Stallard <stallard@nospam.net > wrote:
>
>Hey Jeffy, you can ski that one, right? ;)

Probably.
--
According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."



02 May 2008 05:29:51
Alan Baker
Re: Making lines

In article <ba-dnWjEo40-CYfVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
eagle@armory.com (Jeff Davis) wrote:

> In article <alangbaker-AD923D.18434201052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >And it has obviously skidded turns in it.
>
> You're such a shitty skier you had to hang it up when the season was just
> getting started. So you opinion means squat- bupkis- nada- Gimp.

LOL

Any time you want to race me in the gates, Jeffy.

But for cash.

> --
> According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."
>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."


01 May 2008 22:36:27
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:31 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 1, 10:38 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 12:32 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Now, about the "obsession," yes, of course, as VtSkier put it
> > > "addiction," that is one very important driving force in pursuing this
> > > high level, perfection, of skiing. Without it, you don't go anywhere
> > > in "real" skiing.
>
> > Thanks for that pathetic diatribe, but I'll leave my definition of
> > "real" skiing to almost anyone else but you.
>
> So, what is your definition of "real" skiing, again?
>

See here Yabadabadoo, you're evading the question. Itchy has a very
good idea of what his "real skiing" is (or more correctly what his
notion of "Ideal Skiing" is, since that's what it is, an ideal, that
we all have in mind to aspire to in our personal skiing.) And he is
communicating it (perhaps insufficiently) but you aren't even making
the effort to describe your ideal, and until you do that you haven't
stepped up to itchy's level.

But even if you do, any notion of ideal skiing is a personal and some
would say vain notion. I mean I like my steez (my active aspiration to
my personal ideal of good skiing), and I like to show my steez under
the lift, and I like it when people hoot when I do that. Does that
make me vain? You bet. But hey, all skiing, unless it is racing, is
just figure skating without the pretty dress.

I suppose there are people who view skiing as pure functional
survival, but if they're doing that, they can't be very good can they?
I mean once you've survived the heinously steep, don't you want to do
it better the next time? and if you don't, shouldn't you just go
directly to the lowest common denominator, get a snowboard and spend
your days skidding sideways down the mountain?

So I say Hurray for Vanity! Hurray for "Real Skiing"! Hurray for Chai
Tea Skiing!

That said, I prefer to make my lines where they won't show--on buffed
out world cup quality hardpack. And while Itchy's skiing expresses the
serenity of tai chi, mine looks like pure hate. Who's to say what's
better?


01 May 2008 22:45:44
Yabahoobs
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 11:36 pm, Not That Dave <3l30N...@gmail.com > wrote:

> That said, I prefer to make my lines where they won't show--on buffed
> out world cup quality hardpack. And while Itchy's skiing expresses the
> serenity of tai chi, mine looks like pure hate. Who's to say what's
> better?

No one. That is my point concerning chai tea's lectures about his
''technique".



01 May 2008 23:03:40
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 10:45 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 11:36 pm, Not That Dave <3l30N...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That said, I prefer to make my lines where they won't show--on buffed
> > out world cup quality hardpack. And while Itchy's skiing expresses the
> > serenity of tai chi, mine looks like pure hate. Who's to say what's
> > better?
>
> No one. That is my point concerning chai tea's lectures about his
> ''technique".

Yeah but they also express a unique viewpoint that we won't get
anywhere else. My point is that we should encourage these efforts
and perhaps engage in them ourselves.

It has to be better than arguing about who didn't show up for what
opportunity to shriek like a little girl in the presence of whom.


02 May 2008 07:00:45
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 1, 7:58 pm, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 9:41 pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > Do you really need a personal defintion of ''real'' skiing to enjoy
> > > it ? Must you dilute it to some pathetic tag-line for how you view
> > > yourself on skis ?
>
> Doesn't seem very "tai chi" to me.

Probably just you mouth the word, like you do in your skiing, you have
no idea what or how Taichi is.

>
> > > I'd like to see how clean your line is going down the slope in Armin's
> > > picture. LoL...
>
> > Not sure if you can keep up to see my clean line.
>
> Another display of your arrogance and monstrous ego. Again doesn't
> seem too "tai chi".

Nevertheless, why do you feel being pressured? As a matter of fact, I
can even predict that you cannot handle the line in Armin's picture.
It is not arrogance but having a better insight.

> > You may feel complacency for your mediocre skiing, but many of us do
> > intend to "raise the bar" of skiing, fortunately.
>
> WE do. You quibble over your appearance going down groomed snoozers.
> If that is truly your goal (and I doubt it is), you've failed
> miserably.

You do what? Mediocre skiing? Probably not even that if you cannot
handle the groomed snoozers.

> > > > > Scottish for " I win".
>
> > > > Your pathetic innuendo.
>
> > > label it what you want. it is exactly what he does. You brag about
> > > enlightenment, and your superior skiing 'skill'. he brags about free
> > > lift tickets. There isn't a difference.
>
> And there still remains no differnece between your bragging, and
> his...or anyone else's for that matter.

When the description is true, then it is not a bragging; it's more
like it's you who brag about--your arrogance.

> > > > snipped pop-psychology, holier-than-thou diatribe...
>
> > Can't face your own embarrassments?
>
> Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>
> Keep playing. Your arrogance is fun.

Have a nice head-banging session.

:)
IS


02 May 2008 13:15:02
lal_truckee
Re: Making lines

Dave Stallard wrote:
> Armin wrote:
>> Hey, if we're posting pictures of lines, I have one.
>>
>> This was last Saturdays run at Whitewater. Green line was our route
>> up, red line was our route down. The snow was (suprisingly for a sunny
>> April 28th day) very, very nice powder. Sunny, no wind, not too warm,
>> not too cold and perfect powder conditions.
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/armin/lines.jpg
>
> Hey Jeffy, you can ski that one, right?

It's the climbing part that must be considered. How much allowance does
the young stud make for the old geezer dragging along behind?


03 May 2008 09:42:35
ant
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:

> Ahh... you don't know how to read the line?! Ok, here's some hint: on
> the opening of the clip, there are two [obvious] lines in the picture.
> The one on the right, which is straighter and consisted of two thin
> tracks, is mine; see if you can trace it up. Btw, you may need a high
> power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> 400 mhz computer.

That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how good
this clown skis!

I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.

--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




03 May 2008 07:25:23
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 2, 3:42 pm, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk >
wrote:
> taichiskiing wrote:
> > Ahh... you don't know how to read the line?! Ok, here's some hint: on
> > the opening of the clip, there are two [obvious] lines in the picture.
> > The one on the right, which is straighter and consisted of two thin
> > tracks, is mine; see if you can trace it up. Btw, you may need a high
> > power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> > 400 mhz computer.
>
> That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how good
> this clown skis!

Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.

>
> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.

A conceited gapper may see any and every thing in a skiing video,
except the skiing. Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.

:)
IS

>
> --
> ant
> Don't try to email me!
> I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
> email addy.


03 May 2008 14:53:39
Norm
Re: Making lines


"taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:e2d08cbe-f994-


>> > power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
>> > 400 mhz computer.
>>
>> That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how
>> good
>> this clown skis!
>
> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
>>
>> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> A conceited gapper may see any and every thing in a skiing video,
> except the skiing. Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>

I can only think of one who does.






03 May 2008 08:39:56
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 6:53 am, "Norm" <Normgrant...@yahoo.ca > wrote:
> "taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:e2d08cbe-f994-
>
> >> > power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> >> > 400 mhz computer.
>
> >> That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how
> >> good
> >> this clown skis!
>
> > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> >> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> > A conceited gapper may see any and every thing in a skiing video,
> > except the skiing. Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>
> I can only think of one who does.

But lack of talent/courage to make it clear who does what?

:)
IS


03 May 2008 11:18:57
klaus
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.

dOOd. It was on YouTube. About as low res as it gets. DOS 5.0 on a 386
computer with 640x480 VGA and 256 colors is overkill. Even in high res
mode, the video is 442x386. HTH.

-klaus


04 May 2008 09:12:16
ant
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:

> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.

Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you what
you're not seeing?



--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




03 May 2008 20:02:32
Jeff Davis
Re: Making lines

In article <alangbaker-78A201.22295101052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net] >,
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net > wrote:
>
>LOL

When Diablo Cody used that in an email it was cordial and sweet. When you
use it, the acronym becomes a meaningless cliche akin to dead dog flogging.

>Any time you want to race me in the gates, Jeffy.

You don't have the balls to ski out of bounds. Fuck your gates. Come ski
4 Shadows on Cody Peak, then talk bullshit. You never show up. You have
a reputation for chickening out. I'll never have to ski with you, because
you never pony up. And you're such an incompetent skier, I doubt you can
stay healty long enough to pony up. So go back to your porn sites and fuck
yourself.
--
According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."



03 May 2008 20:05:34
Jeff Davis
Re: Making lines

In article <fvi6q1$38l$1@xmission.xmission.com >,
klaus <klaus@xmission.xmission.com > wrote:
>
>dOOd.

You misspelled dewd, shithead.
--
According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."



03 May 2008 21:04:36
klaus
Re: Making lines

Jeff Davis <eagle@armory.com > wrote:
> In article <fvi6q1$38l$1@xmission.xmission.com>,
> klaus <klaus@xmission.xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>dOOd.
>
> You misspelled dewd, shithead.

Yer funny. :) dOOd. So that's what they call gifted these days? Sad.

-klaus




03 May 2008 20:57:25
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 9:18 am, klaus <kl...@xmission.xmission.com > wrote:
> taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> dOOd. It was on YouTube. About as low res as it gets. DOS 5.0 on a 386
> computer with 640x480 VGA and 256 colors is overkill. Even in high res
> mode, the video is 442x386.

Yup, I did say it worked on my 400 mhz machine. So, we can conclude
that she did see the image but didn't know what to look for? Yah,
that's low caliber...

> HTH.

Thanks for clear that up.

:)
IS

>
> -klaus


03 May 2008 21:01:03
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 3:12 pm, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk >
wrote:
> taichiskiing wrote:
> > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you what
> you're not seeing?

You seem to forget is you who cannot find the line in the first place,
or it's just your Jewish style denial?

No computer has higher power than a trained human mind/eyes; how do
you see?

:)
IS

>
> --
> ant


03 May 2008 21:09:07
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 9:01=A0pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On May 3, 3:12 pm, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> > > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> > > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> > > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> > Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you what
> > you're not seeing?
>
> You seem to forget is you who cannot find the line in the first place,
> or it's just your Jewish style denial?

Maybe. I'm betting on the Chinese style denial myself.





03 May 2008 22:25:50
Bob F
Re: Making lines


"taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:c8fb7453-5529-4cc3-9b2d-4f60a4e95d76@j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On May 3, 6:53 am, "Norm" <Normgrant...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> "taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:e2d08cbe-f994-
>>
>> >> > power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
>> >> > 400 mhz computer.
>>
>> >> That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how
>> >> good
>> >> this clown skis!
>>
>> > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
>> > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
>> > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
>> > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>>
>> >> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>>
>> > A conceited gapper may see any and every thing in a skiing video,
>> > except the skiing. Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>>
>> I can only think of one who does.
>
> But lack of talent/courage to make it clear who does what?
>

It was absolutely clear to me.




03 May 2008 19:27:55
Dave Cartman
Re: Making lines

In article
<5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33480@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com >,
taichiskiing <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:

> it's just your Jewish style denial?

I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?

Thanks in advance!

Dave


03 May 2008 23:57:53
Not That Dave
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 10:27 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article
> <5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > it's just your Jewish style denial?
>
> I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
It's like Goyish denial except with matzoh balls and more guilt.

Has anyone besides me noticed that ChaiTeaSkiing's email address is
"The Dream of Butter"?

So we've got a butter-dreaming chinese skiing coatrack telling an beer-
swilling Aussie ski instructor that she has a jewish style of denial.
Only on the internets!


04 May 2008 08:23:38
Alan Baker
Re: Making lines

In article <sIednfsSNPO1loDVnZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
eagle@armory.com (Jeff Davis) wrote:

> In article <alangbaker-78A201.22295101052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >LOL
>
> When Diablo Cody used that in an email it was cordial and sweet. When you
> use it, the acronym becomes a meaningless cliche akin to dead dog flogging.
>
> >Any time you want to race me in the gates, Jeffy.
>
> You don't have the balls to ski out of bounds. Fuck your gates. Come ski
> 4 Shadows on Cody Peak, then talk bullshit. You never show up. You have
> a reputation for chickening out. I'll never have to ski with you, because
> you never pony up. And you're such an incompetent skier, I doubt you can
> stay healty long enough to pony up. So go back to your porn sites and fuck
> yourself.

I'll take that as you crawling off with your tail between your legs.

> --
> According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker."
>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."


03 May 2008 22:50:20
Dave Cartman
Re: Making lines

In article
<ca8acb5a-aacb-475f-9d0a-3e33cf83167e@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com >,
Not That Dave <3l30NARD@gmail.com > wrote:

> On May 3, 10:27 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > it's just your Jewish style denial?
> >
> > I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> It's like Goyish denial except with matzoh balls and more guilt.

I was thinking it was like regular denial except WHOLESALE!
>
> Has anyone besides me noticed that ChaiTeaSkiing's email address is
> "The Dream of Butter"?

That actually made me fond of him until I saw it was the
dreamofbutterfly - which of course is another psuedo-spiritual load of
clap-trap and pish-posh.

If I didn't already have an anonymous cowardly unverified email address,
I would use the "dream of butter" or perhaps the "dream of bacon."

Dave


04 May 2008 22:02:23
ant
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:
> On May 3, 3:12 pm, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> taichiskiing wrote:
>>> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
>>> you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
>>> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
>>> see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>>
>> Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you
>> what you're not seeing?
>
> You seem to forget is you who cannot find the line in the first place,
> or it's just your Jewish style denial?
>
> No computer has higher power than a trained human mind/eyes; how do
> you see?

Ah, now I get it. You don't need a special high power computer, it's your
third eye that allows you to imagine you can ski!


--
ant
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email addy.




04 May 2008 10:14:15
Walt
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:
> "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.

As in "Jesus Christ! Here comes that flailing dude again!"

//Walt


04 May 2008 09:48:32
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On May 4, 7:14=A0am, Walt <walt_ask...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> taichiskiing wrote:
> > "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> > Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>
> As in "Jesus Christ! =A0Here comes that flailing dude again!"

Or as in "Jesus Christ! Are you ok dude?"



04 May 2008 20:51:32
pigo
Re: Making lines

On May 4, 10:48=A0am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 4, 7:14=A0am, Walt <walt_ask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > taichiskiing wrote:
> > > "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> > > Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>
> > As in "Jesus Christ! =A0Here comes that flailing dude again!"
>
> Or as in "Jesus Christ! =A0Are you ok dude?"

Or how about "Jesus Christ! You know you could fix that with a couple
of lessons!"


04 May 2008 21:02:57
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 4, 4:02 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk >
wrote:
> taichiskiing wrote:
> > On May 3, 3:12 pm, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> taichiskiing wrote:
> >>> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> >>> you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> >>> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> >>> see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> >> Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you
> >> what you're not seeing?
>
> > You seem to forget is you who cannot find the line in the first place,
> > or it's just your Jewish style denial?
>
> > No computer has higher power than a trained human mind/eyes; how do
> > you see?
>
> Ah, now I get it. You don't need a special high power computer, it's your
> third eye that allows you to imagine you can ski!

What is it a Jewish denial?

A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments.

So you don't know it is your imagination that invents the "third eye"?

:)
IS

>
> --
> ant


04 May 2008 21:05:57
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 9:27 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article
> <5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > it's just your Jewish style denial?
>
> I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?

And you dealt with Scotty for such long time and you don't know his
tactic? You don't know your opponents too well, do you?

"What is it a Jewish denial?

A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments."

>
> Thanks in advance!

You're welcome, :)
IS

>
> Dave


04 May 2008 21:07:30
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 3, 9:25 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com > wrote:
> "taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c8fb7453-5529-4cc3-9b2d-4f60a4e95d76@j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 3, 6:53 am, "Norm" <Normgrant...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> "taichiskiing" <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> message news:e2d08cbe-f994-
>
> >> >> > power computer and high res. display to view it, but it works on my
> >> >> > 400 mhz computer.
>
> >> >> That's brilliant! You need a special "high power" computer to see how
> >> >> good
> >> >> this clown skis!
>
> >> > Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip if
> >> > you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
> >> > analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you to
> >> > see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>
> >> >> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>
> >> > A conceited gapper may see any and every thing in a skiing video,
> >> > except the skiing. Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>
> >> I can only think of one who does.
>
> > But lack of talent/courage to make it clear who does what?
>
> It was absolutely clear to me.

"But lack of talent/courage to make it clear who does what?"

:)
IS


04 May 2008 21:29:28
Richard Henry
Re: Making lines

On May 4, 9:02=A0pm, taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>
> What is it a Jewish denial?
>
> A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
> their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
> they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
> reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
> attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
> revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
> opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
> themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments.

That's funny. You don't look Jewish.


04 May 2008 20:22:16
Dave Cartman
Re: Making lines

In article
<ce7b9edb-70f0-4717-99d4-57e3f1b87475@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com >,
taichiskiing <thedreamofbutterfly@hotmail.com > wrote:

> On May 3, 9:27 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > it's just your Jewish style denial?
> >
> > I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?
>
> And you dealt with Scotty for such long time and you don't know his
> tactic? You don't know your opponents too well, do you?

Opponent? THis isn't a fight, it's a newsgroup.
>
> "What is it a Jewish denial?
>
> A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
> their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
> they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
> reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
> attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
> revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
> opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
> themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments."

1) That's not exactly Scott's tactic. If it were, he'd be arguing that
he was a huge liar and that he had had given Ant the lift tickets.

2) I'm going to respectfully disagree with your assertion that arguing
like that is even remotely a "Jewish practice." If anyone here was
using the technique you described then others would be claiming you were
some sort of humble, self effacing, skiing god and an excellent
communicator.

You probably shouldn't make sweeping statements about "Jewish arguing
practices." But that's just my opinion.

Dave


05 May 2008 23:00:28
ant
Re: Making lines

pigo wrote:
> On May 4, 10:48 am, Richard Henry <pomer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 4, 7:14 am, Walt <walt_ask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> taichiskiing wrote:
>>>> "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I still think you look like a coat rack on skis.
>>
>>>> Some people even think I'm Jesus Christ on skis.
>>
>>> As in "Jesus Christ! Here comes that flailing dude again!"
>>
>> Or as in "Jesus Christ! Are you ok dude?"
>
> Or how about "Jesus Christ! You know you could fix that with a couple
> of lessons!"

I think you're being too kind there.

--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




05 May 2008 23:01:48
ant
Re: Making lines

taichiskiing wrote:
> On May 4, 4:02 am, "ant" <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> taichiskiing wrote:
>>> On May 3, 3:12 pm, "ant"
>>> <eventmanager_verificationsd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> taichiskiing wrote:
>>>>> Yes, you need the special "high power" computer to read the clip
>>>>> if you lack of the talent to rise out of your low caliber motion
>>>>> analysis, skiing knowledge, and poor personalities; it helps you
>>>>> to see the "line" that you don't/cannot see before.
>>
>>>> Uh huh. So you need a special "high power" computer that tells you
>>>> what you're not seeing?
>>
>>> You seem to forget is you who cannot find the line in the first
>>> place, or it's just your Jewish style denial?
>>
>>> No computer has higher power than a trained human mind/eyes; how do
>>> you see?
>>
>> Ah, now I get it. You don't need a special high power computer, it's
>> your third eye that allows you to imagine you can ski!
>
> What is it a Jewish denial?
>
> A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
> their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
> they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
> reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
> attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
> revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
> opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
> themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments.
>
> So you don't know it is your imagination that invents the "third eye"?

Can I call Godwin's on this yet?


--
ant
Don't try to email me!
I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
email addy.




05 May 2008 09:20:24
Walt
Re: Making lines

ant wrote:

> taichiskiing wrote:

>> What is it a Jewish denial?
>>
>> A common Jewish practice on the 'net forums/newsgroups when they lost
>> their arguments/bashing, instead of admitting their lost gracefully,
>> they would prolong the arguments by using malicious innuendos,
>> reinterpretation/misinterpretation of the subjects to redirect the
>> attentions away from their failures, and role-switch, which the losers
>> revert their stance to the opposite side and continue to argue as the
>> opposite side as themselves and themselves the opposite side to deny
>> themselves to see the fact that they have lost the arguments.
>>
>> So you don't know it is your imagination that invents the "third eye"?
>
> Can I call Godwin's on this yet?

I think so. Mr. Coatrack has outdone himself here.

//Walt


05 May 2008 07:12:38
taichiskiing
Re: Making lines

On May 4, 10:22 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article
> <ce7b9edb-70f0-4717-99d4-57e3f1b87...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 3, 9:27 pm, Dave Cartman <ver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <5ab04c1f-6245-4a6c-aa8a-f75170b33...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > taichiskiing <thedreamofbutter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > it's just your Jewish style denial?
>
> > > I'm not familiar with "Jewish style denial." Would you please elaborate?
>
> > And you dealt with Scotty for such long time and you don't know his
> > tactic? You don't know your opponents too well, do you?
>
> Opponent? THis isn't a fight, it's a newsgroup.

"Reinterpretation/misinterpretation"--