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| 25 Apr 2008 11:58:33 |
| Edward M. Kennedy |
| Go, Ty's, Go! |
Lawson enters draft without agent; Tyler "might make himself available": http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2793022/ --Tedward |
| 26 Apr 2008 02:26:52 |
| Donnie Barnes |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
On Fri, 25 Apr, Edward M. Kennedy wrote: > Lawson enters draft without agent; Tyler "might make himself available": > > http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2793022/ No such luck. Tyler stays. Woot. I sorta hope Lawson stays in the draft. I doubt Ellington can...he may not even get drafted, I think. Lawson should be able to hang on to the tail end of the first round, anyway. --Donnie |
| 25 Apr 2008 23:26:50 |
| tarheels_fan |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
Donnie Barnes wrote: >On Fri, 25 Apr, Edward M. Kennedy wrote: >>Lawson enters draft without agent; Tyler "might make himself available": >> >>http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2793022/ > >No such luck. Tyler stays. Woot. We need another interior force, or decent outside shooters, so that Tyler doesn't feel the need to throw up wild shots while triple teamed. > I sorta hope Lawson stays in the draft. >I doubt Ellington can...he may not even get drafted, I think. Second round at best. Donald Williams would say he doesn't get drafted. But then again, David Noel got drafted. > Lawson should >be able to hang on to the tail end of the first round, anyway. Wonder if these guys, or at least Ellington, want to leave because they don't have faith in winning a championship under Roy. |
| 26 Apr 2008 23:47:56 |
| Donnie Barnes |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
On Sat, 26 Apr, tarheels_fan wrote: > We need another interior force, or decent outside shooters, so that Tyler > doesn't feel the need to throw up wild shots while triple teamed. Zeller and Davis say hi. >> I sorta hope Lawson stays in the draft. >> I doubt Ellington can...he may not even get drafted, I think. > > Second round at best. Donald Williams would say he doesn't get drafted. > But then again, David Noel got drafted. David Noel at least has a SERIOUS NBA body and can jump out of the gym. Ellington is a bit thin and a little slow. You put Ellington's shot in Noel's repertoire and you have the makings of another Kobe. >> Lawson should >>be able to hang on to the tail end of the first round, anyway. > > Wonder if these guys, or at least Ellington, want to leave because they > don't have faith in winning a championship under Roy. Eh? I think both Ellington and Lawson are "stepping stone" kind of guys, personally. They would *like* to win a championship in college, but they don't REALLY want it. They REALLY want to get paid to play basketball, period. Maximizing their potential to do that is all they really seem to care about, and unfortunately they don't seem to get how to effectively do that. --Donnie |
| 26 Apr 2008 22:58:42 |
| tarheels_fan |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
Donnie Barnes wrote: >On Sat, 26 Apr, tarheels_fan wrote: >>We need another interior force, or decent outside shooters, so that Tyler >>doesn't feel the need to throw up wild shots while triple teamed. > >Zeller and Davis say hi. Sounds good. They are both in the top 16, so UNC will dominate on the inside next season. The other guy coming in is Drew, who isn't ranked very high. What do you think of him? Can he score at all? Can he hit threes? Or if he can be like an Ed Cota, that wouldn't be bad either. >>>I sorta hope Lawson stays in the draft. >>>I doubt Ellington can...he may not even get drafted, I think. >> >>Second round at best. Donald Williams would say he doesn't get drafted. >>But then again, David Noel got drafted. > >David Noel at least has a SERIOUS NBA body and can jump out of the gym. >Ellington is a bit thin and a little slow. You put Ellington's shot in >Noel's repertoire and you have the makings of another Kobe. I don't ever remember Kobe going 1-9 in the NBA Finals. >>> Lawson should >>>be able to hang on to the tail end of the first round, anyway. >> >>Wonder if these guys, or at least Ellington, want to leave because they >>don't have faith in winning a championship under Roy. > >Eh? I think both Ellington and Lawson are "stepping stone" kind of guys, >personally. They would like to win a championship in college, but they >don't REALLY want it. They REALLY want to get paid to play basketball, >period. Maximizing their potential to do that is all they really seem >to care about, and unfortunately they don't seem to get how to effectively >do that. As we saw in the Final Four. |
| 28 Apr 2008 00:40:51 |
| Donnie Barnes |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
On Sun, 27 Apr, tarheels_fan wrote: > Sounds good. They are both in the top 16, so UNC will dominate on the > inside next season. The other guy coming in is Drew, who isn't ranked > very high. What do you think of him? Can he score at all? Can he hit > threes? Or if he can be like an Ed Cota, that wouldn't be bad either. He'll be a servicable backup to start, will likely be a very good backup to Bobby by year end. To some that sounds not-so-stellar, but listen to me and listen good: Bobby Frasor is a great college basketball player. In the 12 games he played this season he won the team defensive award five times. His shot selection is good and he can knock down open shots. Most importantly, he can throw an entry pass. >>David Noel at least has a SERIOUS NBA body and can jump out of the gym. >>Ellington is a bit thin and a little slow. You put Ellington's shot in >>Noel's repertoire and you have the makings of another Kobe. > > I don't ever remember Kobe going 1-9 in the NBA Finals. Well, Ellington's shot in Noel's body would have made him much more deadly, at least. Plus, Noel has a will power that Ellington could only dream of. >>Eh? I think both Ellington and Lawson are "stepping stone" kind of guys, >>personally. They would like to win a championship in college, but they >>don't REALLY want it. They REALLY want to get paid to play basketball, >>period. Maximizing their potential to do that is all they really seem >>to care about, and unfortunately they don't seem to get how to effectively >>do that. > > As we saw in the Final Four. Indeed. --Donnie |
| 27 Apr 2008 21:24:51 |
| tarheels_fan |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
Donnie Barnes wrote: >On Sun, 27 Apr, tarheels_fan wrote: >>Sounds good. They are both in the top 16, so UNC will dominate on the >>inside next season. The other guy coming in is Drew, who isn't ranked >>very high. What do you think of him? Can he score at all? Can he hit >>threes? Or if he can be like an Ed Cota, that wouldn't be bad either. > >He'll be a servicable backup to start, will likely be a very good backup >to Bobby by year end. To some that sounds not-so-stellar, but listen to >me and listen good: Bobby Frasor is a great college basketball player. >In the 12 games he played this season he won the team defensive award >five times. That really isn't saying much, you know that! And even worse is that he didn't win the award in 7 out of those 12 games. >His shot selection is good and he can knock down open shots. We haven't had that in a while. >Most importantly, he can throw an entry pass. > >>>David Noel at least has a SERIOUS NBA body and can jump out of the gym. >>>Ellington is a bit thin and a little slow. You put Ellington's shot in >>>Noel's repertoire and you have the makings of another Kobe. >> >>I don't ever remember Kobe going 1-9 in the NBA Finals. > >Well, Ellington's shot in Noel's body would have made him much more >deadly, at least. Deadly for his team or the opponent? LOL. >Plus, Noel has a will power that Ellington could >only dream of. > >>>Eh? I think both Ellington and Lawson are "stepping stone" kind of guys, >>>personally. They would like to win a championship in college, but they >>>don't REALLY want it. They REALLY want to get paid to play basketball, >>>period. Maximizing their potential to do that is all they really seem >>>to care about, and unfortunately they don't seem to get how to >>>effectively >>>do that. >> >>As we saw in the Final Four. > >Indeed. > > >--Donnie |
| 28 Apr 2008 10:57:05 |
| Edward M. Kennedy |
| Re: Go, Ty's, Go! |
<tarheels_fan > wrote in >>He'll be a servicable backup to start, will likely be a very good backup >>to Bobby by year end. To some that sounds not-so-stellar, but listen to >>me and listen good: Bobby Frasor is a great college basketball player. >>In the 12 games he played this season he won the team defensive award >>five times. > > That really isn't saying much, you know that! And even worse is that he didn't win the award in 7 out of those 12 games. Damned with faint praise or taking candy from a baby? --Tedward |