05 May 2008 02:06:33

Mohan

Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

http://audiencemap.com/yesterday.htm Set Max blows away all other channels for Sunday ratings. Star Plus' quiz show hosted by SRK, which was supposed to provide a stiff challenge to IPL, languishing at 20th position, while IPL has 9 out of top 10 half-hour slots for the day. What is even more interesting is that even though the second match on Sunday was one-sided and Rajasthan were chasing a low score, still the match attracted more eyeballs all the way till the end than what any other program on TV managed the whole day (as evidenced by IPL 2230-2300 slot being the fourth most watched slot of the day). Mohan 1. SetMax 2100-2130 2. SetMax 2200-2230 3. SetMax 1830-1900 4. SetMax 2230-2300 5. Star Plus 1900-1930 6. SetMax 1700-1730 7. SetMax 2030-2100 8. SetMax 1800-1830 9. SetMax 2130-2200 10. SetMax 2000-2030 11. Star Plus 2030-2100 12. Star Plus 2130-2200 13. SetMax 1630-1700 14. SetMax 1730-1800 15. Star Plus 2100-2130 16. SetMax 1600-1630 17. Zee Cinema 2130-2200 18. Star Plus 1530-1600 19. Star Plus 1330-1400 20. Star Plus 2000-2030

06 May 2008 08:08:02

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 5, 2:06=A0am, Mohan <mohandas.konan...@gmail.com > wrote: > http://audiencemap.com/yesterday.htm > > Set Max blows away all other channels for Sunday ratings. Star Plus' > quiz show hosted by SRK, which was supposed to provide a stiff > challenge to IPL, languishing at 20th position, while IPL has 9 out of > top 10 half-hour slots for the day. What is even more interesting is > that even though the second match on Sunday was one-sided and > Rajasthan were chasing a low score, still the match attracted more > eyeballs all the way till the end than what any other program on TV > managed the whole day (as evidenced by IPL 2230-2300 slot being the > fourth most watched slot of the day). > > Mohan > > 1. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02100-2130 > 2. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A0 2200-2230 > 3. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01830-1900 > 4. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02230-2300 > 5. =A0 =A0 =A0Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1900-1930 > 6. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01700-1730 > 7. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02030-2100 > 8. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01800-1830 > 9. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02130-2200 > 10. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A02000-2030 > 11. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2030-2100 > 12. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2130-2200 > 13. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01630-1700 > 14. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01730-1800 > 15. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2100-2130 > 16. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01600-1630 > 17. =A0 =A0 Zee Cinema =A0 =A0 =A02130-2200 > 18. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1530-1600 > 19. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1330-1400 > 20. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2000-2030 I agree, its been a runaway success so far. The main problems I forsee going forward are a drop of interest ( especialy in crowd support), for the teams which look unlikely to make it to the knockout stage and the substandard quality of cricket and umpiring. The IPL has been modeled on the Engish premier league - where specatators expect to watch the best. This has not been the case with the IPL - the general outfielding and catching in almost all games has been poor, the cricket played at the Chinaswamy yesterday was an embarassment ( with the exception of Steyn and maybe Dravid) and some of our Indian umpires don't seem to know the laws of cricket. Not a difficult problem to fix, but Modi better turn his attention to it, as the public are not fools.

06 May 2008 09:15:08

rosh

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 11:08=A0am, ganes...@gmail.com wrote: > On May 5, 2:06=A0am, Mohan <mohandas.konan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://audiencemap.com/yesterday.htm > > > Set Max blows away all other channels for Sunday ratings. Star Plus' > > quiz show hosted by SRK, which was supposed to provide a stiff > > challenge to IPL, languishing at 20th position, while IPL has 9 out of > > top 10 half-hour slots for the day. What is even more interesting is > > that even though the second match on Sunday was one-sided and > > Rajasthan were chasing a low score, still the match attracted more > > eyeballs all the way till the end than what any other program on TV > > managed the whole day (as evidenced by IPL 2230-2300 slot being the > > fourth most watched slot of the day). > > > Mohan > > > 1. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02100-2130 > > 2. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A0 2200-2230 > > 3. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01830-1900 > > 4. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02230-2300 > > 5. =A0 =A0 =A0Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1900-1930 > > 6. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01700-1730 > > 7. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02030-2100 > > 8. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A01800-1830 > > 9. =A0 =A0 =A0SetMax =A02130-2200 > > 10. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A02000-2030 > > 11. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2030-2100 > > 12. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2130-2200 > > 13. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01630-1700 > > 14. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01730-1800 > > 15. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2100-2130 > > 16. =A0 =A0 SetMax =A01600-1630 > > 17. =A0 =A0 Zee Cinema =A0 =A0 =A02130-2200 > > 18. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1530-1600 > > 19. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 1330-1400 > > 20. =A0 =A0 Star Plus =A0 =A0 =A0 2000-2030 > > I agree, its been a runaway success so far. The main problems I forsee > going forward are a drop of interest ( especialy in crowd support), > for the teams which look unlikely to make it to the knockout stage and > the substandard quality of cricket and umpiring. > > The IPL has been modeled on the Engish premier league - where > specatators expect to watch the best. This has not been the case with > the IPL - the general outfielding and catching in almost all games has > been =A0poor, the cricket played at the Chinaswamy yesterday was an > embarassment ( with the exception of Steyn and maybe Dravid) and some > of our Indian umpires don't seem to know the laws of cricket. > > Not a difficult problem to fix, but Modi better turn his attention to > it, as the public are not fools.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100% of the time from tests/ODIs Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of the competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, they have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. Unlike County cricket where the stars never have to worry about being dropped from their county sides, IPL is unique in the sense that even stars can't take things lightly Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, because the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1 Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and the difference between winners and losers is not that much. Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranji sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to perform. IPL has created a true market place where performance really counts

06 May 2008 09:41:40

Shikari Shambhu

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com > wrote: > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100% > of the time from tests/ODIs But ... but nobody watches Test cricket. Everybody watches every single IPL match while eating take-out food. That is the difference. I heard crime rate is reduced during these hours and girls are frustrated that boys are not around to look at them during an IPL match. Also, Indra's chair is shaking and he is planning on sending an apsara to Lalit Modi to break his concentration. > Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of the > competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, they > have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. Aren't they supposed to get paid if they are fit and available even if they don't play? > Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance > Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, because > the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1 > Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and > the difference between winners and losers is not that much. > Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranji > sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to > perform. Only valid from your "more I get to play, more I get paid" assumption. I believe they get paid the same amount even if they are dropped for a match but are fit and available. > IPL has created a true market place where performance really counts- Hide = quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -

06 May 2008 10:01:58

tendulkar.com

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 12:41=A0pm, Shikari Shambhu <susene...@yahoo.com > wrote: > On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are > > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100% > > of the time from tests/ODIs > > But ... but nobody watches Test cricket. Everybody watches every > single IPL match while eating take-out food. That is the difference. I > heard crime rate is reduced during these hours and girls are > frustrated that boys are not around to look at them during an IPL > match. Also, Indra's chair is shaking and he is planning on sending an > apsara to Lalit Modi to break his concentration. > > > Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of the > > competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, they > > have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. > > Aren't they supposed to get paid if they are fit and available even if > they don't play? > > > Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance > > Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, because > > the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1 > > Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and > > the difference between winners and losers is not that much. > > Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranji > > sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to > > perform. > > Only valid from your "more I get to play, more I get paid" assumption. > I believe they get paid the same amount even if they are dropped for a > match but are fit and available. > Actually it is irrelevant. Think about it. If Kallis gets paid $800,000 this year, but get dropped, he may get the full $800,000 this year (I"m not sure how the contracts are signed). But, no franchise is going to pay $800,000 for him next year. So, his stock will drop next year Thats the beauty of marketplace and the bidding system

06 May 2008 10:05:54

Shikari Shambhu

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 1:01=A0pm, "tendulkar.com" <tendulkar....@gmail.com > wrote: > On May 6, 12:41=A0pm, Shikari Shambhu <susene...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are= > > > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > > > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100%= > > > of the time from tests/ODIs > > > But ... but nobody watches Test cricket. Everybody watches every > > single IPL match while eating take-out food. That is the difference. I > > heard crime rate is reduced during these hours and girls are > > frustrated that boys are not around to look at them during an IPL > > match. Also, Indra's chair is shaking and he is planning on sending an > > apsara to Lalit Modi to break his concentration. > > > > Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of the > > > competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, they > > > have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. > > > Aren't they supposed to get paid if they are fit and available even if > > they don't play? > > > > Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance > > > Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, because > > > the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1 > > > Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and > > > the difference between winners and losers is not that much. > > > Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranji > > > sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to > > > perform. > > > Only valid from your "more I get to play, more I get paid" assumption. > > I believe they get paid the same amount even if they are dropped for a > > match but are fit and available. > > Actually it is irrelevant. Think about it. If Kallis gets paid > $800,000 this year, but get dropped, he may get the full $800,000 this > year (I"m not sure how the contracts are signed). But, no franchise is > going to pay $800,000 for him next year. So, his stock will drop next > year > > Thats the beauty of marketplace and the bidding system- Hide quoted text -= > > - Show quoted text - We are talking about people who paid $850,000 for Kaif.

06 May 2008 10:10:28

tendulkar.com

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 1:05=A0pm, Shikari Shambhu <susene...@yahoo.com > wrote: > On May 6, 1:01=A0pm, "tendulkar.com" <tendulkar....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:41=A0pm, Shikari Shambhu <susene...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There a= re > > > > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > > > > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 10= 0% > > > > of the time from tests/ODIs > > > > But ... but nobody watches Test cricket. Everybody watches every > > > single IPL match while eating take-out food. That is the difference. I= > > > heard crime rate is reduced during these hours and girls are > > > frustrated that boys are not around to look at them during an IPL > > > match. Also, Indra's chair is shaking and he is planning on sending an= > > > apsara to Lalit Modi to break his concentration. > > > > > Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of th= e > > > > competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, the= y > > > > have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. > > > > Aren't they supposed to get paid if they are fit and available even if= > > > they don't play? > > > > > Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance > > > > Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, becaus= e > > > > the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1= > > > > Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and > > > > the difference between winners and losers is not that much. > > > > Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranj= i > > > > sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to > > > > perform. > > > > Only valid from your "more I get to play, more I get paid" assumption.= > > > I believe they get paid the same amount even if they are dropped for a= > > > match but are fit and available. > > > Actually it is irrelevant. Think about it. If Kallis gets paid > > $800,000 this year, but get dropped, he may get the full $800,000 this > > year (I"m not sure how the contracts are signed). But, no franchise is > > going to pay $800,000 for him next year. So, his stock will drop next > > year > > > Thats the beauty of marketplace and the bidding system- Hide quoted text= - > > > - Show quoted text - > > We are talking about people who paid $850,000 for Kaif.- Hide quoted text = - > > - Show quoted text - Well, the initial year is always going to be noise and hype, just like Internet company valuations. But as we collect more data and output can be measured more accurately, wages will match productivity

06 May 2008 10:11:07

Macjoubert

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

On May 6, 12:01=A0pm, "tendulkar.com" <tendulkar....@gmail.com > wrote: > On May 6, 12:41=A0pm, Shikari Shambhu <susene...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are= > > > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > > > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100%= > > > of the time from tests/ODIs > > > But ... but nobody watches Test cricket. Everybody watches every > > single IPL match while eating take-out food. That is the difference. I > > heard crime rate is reduced during these hours and girls are > > frustrated that boys are not around to look at them during an IPL > > match. Also, Indra's chair is shaking and he is planning on sending an > > apsara to Lalit Modi to break his concentration. > > > > Also, the biggest difference is the motivation factor. Because of the > > > competition of only 4 foreign players among the 7 or 8 to chose, they > > > have to perform to earn their place in the side/moola. > > > Aren't they supposed to get paid if they are fit and available even if > > they don't play? > > > > Already Charu Sharma has been kicked out for his non-performance > > > Kallis and Dravid will be shitting in their pants to perform, because > > > the difference between a star and non-performer will be more than $1 > > > Million Bucks. Even at World Cup, players have guaranteed money and > > > the difference between winners and losers is not that much. > > > Can you imagine Dravid/Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble dropped from their Ranji > > > sides? But at IPL they are under a higher scrutiny and have to > > > perform. > > > Only valid from your "more I get to play, more I get paid" assumption. > > I believe they get paid the same amount even if they are dropped for a > > match but are fit and available. > > Actually it is irrelevant. Think about it. If Kallis gets paid > $800,000 this year, but get dropped, he may get the full $800,000 this > year (I"m not sure how the contracts are signed). But, no franchise is > going to pay $800,000 for him next year. So, his stock will drop next > year > > Thats the beauty of marketplace and the bidding system- Hide quoted text -= > > - Show quoted text - The luckiest SOB is that bearded wonder Mohd Yousuf, he made 350,000$ for doing nothing thanks to the imbeciles at the PCB. This must the one case where the imcompetence of the PCB yielded something positive for a cricketer.

06 May 2008 21:30:16

Re: Two weeks on, no sign of viewer fatigue

> On May 6, 12:15=A0pm, rosh <qros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > How is this any different from regular test cricket and ODI? There are > > plenty of instances where teams/umpires put up downright pathetic > > displays on show. You are saying as though we get quality cricket 100% > > of the time from tests/ODIs did you watch the Bangalore/Punjab game ?. It was absolute rubbish. Punjab were bad, Bangalore were super bad. The lack of depth is also making itself felt - if Zaheer were bowing his tripe at Sehwag or Hayden (instead of some unknowns), there was more than a decent chance he woud have gone for 36 an over. on a different note - why do they have to play the knock-out games in Bombay ? a loss in atmosphere right there, assuming the mumbai indians don't qualify.