07 May 2008 00:40:57

LongRodSilver

What tha F???!

If this is real... this is the smoking gun... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNvUQ-sJTyg&feature=related

06 May 2008 22:47:11

Greg Grant of 333

Re: What tha F???!

"LongRodSilver" <LRS@backofyourmothersthroat..com > wrote in message news:v5g224hipusr1q7va7ep8nbmmsp7qu30vp@4ax.com... > If this is real... this is the smoking gun... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNvUQ-sJTyg&feature=related Russian take on X-Files theme was a nice touch.

07 May 2008 01:07:41

LongRodSilver

Re: What tha F???!

On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:47:11 -0800, "Greg Grant of 333" <Victoria@myplace.com > wrote: > >"LongRodSilver" <LRS@backofyourmothersthroat..com> wrote in message >news:v5g224hipusr1q7va7ep8nbmmsp7qu30vp@4ax.com... >> If this is real... this is the smoking gun... >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNvUQ-sJTyg&feature=related > >Russian take on X-Files theme was a nice touch. > Wonder what it is..?

07 May 2008 00:47:13

Greg Grant of 333

Re: What tha F???!

"LongRodSilver" <LRS@backofyourmothersthroat..com > wrote in message news:poh2249b92cjntlbsiu585pefk97mcogki@4ax.com... > On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:47:11 -0800, "Greg Grant of 333" > <Victoria@myplace.com> wrote: > >> >>"LongRodSilver" <LRS@backofyourmothersthroat..com> wrote in message >>news:v5g224hipusr1q7va7ep8nbmmsp7qu30vp@4ax.com... >>> If this is real... this is the smoking gun... >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNvUQ-sJTyg&feature=related >> >>Russian take on X-Files theme was a nice touch. >> > Wonder what it is..? Proof that Russians still can't film as well as Americans? At least Americans have a decency to doublecheck info before hoaxing it. These guys... Lets begin with the film. 1969 film. As in non-color corrected, badly tracking, grainy 1969 film. Not this late 20th century studio made 16mm print used to film. Then lets get to the magnificent trucks. Due to greatcoats, this is allegedly in the winter. Yet all the trucks have tops down per summer regulations. The old truck used to deliver soldiers is nice, a real post World War 2 beast. Late '40s if I had to guess. Polish profile. Probably "liberated" from Poland at the end of the War, or produced in Poland and "gifted" to victorious Soviet soldiers. That part is good. Very authentic. Too bad the Soviet copies of Jeeps aren't. Those things are not Russia friendly. Certainly not-winter time Russia friendly. There was a Soviet version of Jeep made in the '60s, but its front looked nothing like the one you see in the film. And by the way, props to the prop department for cleaning the windshield. Never seen a cleaner Jeep in Soviet military service in my life. Good job guys. Now then, the soldiers. They are all carrying their AK-47s. Very nice. Except they have them barrel pointed up in the truck. That'd be a no-no. Also, you don't cradle an automatic assault rifle like a guitar. And... and this is the sticking point for any potential soldiers out there, it is generally a bad idea to point the barrel of your weapon at your superior officer. Bad form, chaps. Bad form. When you are walking around a highly classified crash site of a UFO, you should not be sticking your gun barrel into the grill of your superior officer or any "KGB officer" you run across. Basic gun safety and all that. While on the topic of soldiers. Why are they all wearing officer's belts? Their collar patches indicate them to be privates, but their belts are for commissioned officers. Kinda strange there. Speaking of patches - the insignia on their sleeves that gets highlighted - that's for "Stroybat": literally Building Battalion, a catch all dept of poor miserable souls who were sent out to build airbases and construct barracks. That part rings true. The rest of the uniform and the state of the patch does not. Guys, this was a building division. As in, when you had to build something on the base, these grunts had to show up and build things in mud, snow, sleet, ice and etc. while in uniform, because taking off uniform while on duty was one of those things that got frowned upon in Soviet army. The idea that they are walking around in these nice and shiny uniforms on a cold winter day with the canvas of the truck down, looking fit and clean is like watching an '80s movie where the urban "gritty" gang of punks are all wearing torn clothes that are all very clean. 1 point for the effort, minus 10 for the authenticity. "KGB Officers" look fake as Hell, but I will give the movie credit and pretend that the two goofs in black leather jackets (something no KGB agent would ever wear in the 1960s and is a product of imagination of American movies that inspired this Russian movie, because Russian have seen all of our movies and love them) could be scientists investigating the UFO under the direction of the one guy who actually looks like he could be an agent - short guy in a brown fur lined jacket with a ushanka hat. Unfortunately, the movie then pisses away that goodwill by having the fedora/porkpie hat guy with non-60s glasses in a black leather jacket give orders to soldiers and to the guy in brown fur jacket, so even that part they got wrong. No way a civilian scientist on a KGB project gives orders to soldiers - even from Building Batallion - or to a KGB agent. I will give this movie props for a couple of things - one, there are no foot or tire tracks leading up to the UFO when soldiers arrive. When they get out of the truck, they make the first foot tracks towards it. Meaning, they did not rehearse the scene where soldiers arrive, so they had to hoax it in one take; or they rehearsed it and then shoveled snow over the tracks. Very impressive. Two, the officer commanding the soldiers had military experience. Obviously an NCO - too bad they gave him commissioned officer uniform, great coat and belt, but - he was authentic until I saw his collar insignia. Three, rather than show the soldiers carefully loading the UFO on a truck, the film has the squad grab it and shove it in. That'd be the typical Soviet Stroybat response to any task. UFO or no UFO, those guys are not what you'd call dainty, so that part made me smile. Four, once again I want to give points for finding a Polish model post-War truck that Soviet Army used that was in running condition, that had to be hard.