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| 02 May 2008 09:45:16 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| IDK Salisbury |
Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up immediately! |
| 02 May 2008 16:57:12 |
| max.it |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley <GavinCawley@googlemail.com > wrote: >Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >immediately! How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit season? max.it |
| 02 May 2008 10:28:10 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On May 2, 5:57 pm, (max.it) wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > > <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > >with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > >immediately! > > How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit > season? Alan Wells perhaps might have the distinction of appearing in his first test after his benefit (FC debut in 1981 and test debut in 1995)? |
| 02 May 2008 18:15:57 |
| max.it |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On Fri, 2 May 2008 10:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley <GavinCawley@googlemail.com > wrote: >On May 2, 5:57 pm, (max.it) wrote: >> On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley >> >> <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >> >with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >> >immediately! >> >> How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >> season? > >Alan Wells perhaps might have the distinction of appearing in his >first test after his benefit (FC debut in 1981 and test debut in >1995)? Wasn't he banned ? max.it |
| 02 May 2008 19:31:07 |
| Mike Holmans |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:57:12 GMT, (max.it) wrote: >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley ><GavinCawley@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >>immediately! > >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >season? Dozens, if not hundreds. Cheers, Mike |
| 02 May 2008 11:37:35 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On 2 May, 19:15, (max.it) wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 2008 10:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > > <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >On May 2, 5:57 pm, (max.it) wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > > >> <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > >> >with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > >> >immediately! > > >> How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit > >> season? > > >Alan Wells perhaps might have the distinction of appearing in his > >first test after his benefit (FC debut in 1981 and test debut in > >1995)? > > Wasn't he banned ? That might well explain why he didn't play test cricket until so late in his career. |
| 02 May 2008 21:38:23 |
| John Hall |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
In article <481b47bb.35527734@news.btinternet.com >, ?@?.?.invalid writes: >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley ><GavinCawley@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >>immediately! > >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >season? A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. -- John Hall "If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626) |
| 02 May 2008 20:54:18 |
| max.it |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On Fri, 02 May 2008 19:31:07 +0100, Mike Holmans <mike@jackalope.demon.co.uk > wrote: >On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:57:12 GMT, (max.it) wrote: > >>On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley >><GavinCawley@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >>>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >>>immediately! >> >>How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >>season? > >Dozens, if not hundreds. > >Cheers, > >Mike To my Oul' Irish wit, a benefit year sounds like a 12 month wake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWRuxKVzTt8 max.it |
| 02 May 2008 14:03:22 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk > wrote: > In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, > > ?@?.?.invalid writes: > >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > >>immediately! > > >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit > >season? > > A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of > his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. > > I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test > level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting move ;o). |
| 02 May 2008 21:38:26 |
| Cicero |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
"Gavin Cawley" <GavinCawley@googlemail.com > wrote in message news:802bea8d-e09e-4104-9be1-8d278f4fbc9a@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote: >> In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, >> >> ?@?.?.invalid writes: >> >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley >> ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >> >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >> >>immediately! >> >> >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >> >season? >> >> A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of >> his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. >> >> I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test >> level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. > > It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling > when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see > him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It > didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the > leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace > inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze > Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which > suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting > move ;o). > There is an obvious comment about Giles inspiring anyone to be a spinner.. :) |
| 02 May 2008 14:43:58 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On 2 May, 22:38, "Cicero" <moofi...@bigpond.net.au > wrote: > "Gavin Cawley" <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:802bea8d-e09e-4104-9be1-8d278f4fbc9a@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote: > >> In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, > > >> ?@?.?.invalid writes: > >> >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > >> ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >> >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > >> >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > >> >>immediately! > > >> >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit > >> >season? > > >> A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of > >> his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. > > >> I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test > >> level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. > > > It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling > > when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see > > him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It > > didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the > > leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace > > inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze > > Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which > > suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting > > move ;o). > > There is an obvious comment about Giles inspiring anyone to be a spinner.. > :) Ah, so that explains that then! ;o) |
| 03 May 2008 01:41:41 |
| Cicero |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
"Gavin Cawley" <GavinCawley@googlemail.com > wrote in message news:52ce1109-6cb3-47c9-81a5-2736ebeda759@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On 2 May, 22:38, "Cicero" <moofi...@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >> "Gavin Cawley" <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:802bea8d-e09e-4104-9be1-8d278f4fbc9a@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote: >> >> In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, >> >> >> ?@?.?.invalid writes: >> >> >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley >> >> ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, >> >> >>now >> >> >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >> >> >>immediately! >> >> >> >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >> >> >season? >> >> >> A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of >> >> his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. >> >> >> I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at >> >> Test >> >> level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. >> >> > It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling >> > when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see >> > him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It >> > didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the >> > leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace >> > inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze >> > Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which >> > suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting >> > move ;o). >> >> There is an obvious comment about Giles inspiring anyone to be a >> spinner.. >> :) > > Ah, so that explains that then! ;o) Hard to get anything past you isn't it? Thanks for the chuckle (at my expense :) ) |
| 03 May 2008 15:06:06 |
| Andrew Dunford |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
"Cicero" <moofie53@bigpond.net.au > wrote in message news:mRLSj.7031$ko5.4049@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "Gavin Cawley" <GavinCawley@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:802bea8d-e09e-4104-9be1-8d278f4fbc9a@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote: >>> In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, >>> >>> ?@?.?.invalid writes: >>> >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley >>> ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >>> >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >>> >>immediately! >>> >>> >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >>> >season? >>> >>> A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of >>> his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. >>> >>> I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test >>> level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. >> >> It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling >> when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see >> him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It >> didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the >> leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace >> inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze >> Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which >> suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting >> move ;o). >> > > There is an obvious comment about Giles inspiring anyone to be a spinner.. > :) I'm also surprised Gavin can change arms at this stage of his career. Andrew |
| 03 May 2008 00:38:26 |
| Gavin Cawley |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
On 3 May, 04:06, "Andrew Dunford" <adunf...@artifax.net > wrote: > "Cicero" <moofi...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message > > news:mRLSj.7031$ko5.4049@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > > > > > "Gavin Cawley" <GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > >news:802bea8d-e09e-4104-9be1-8d278f4fbc9a@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >> On 2 May, 21:38, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote: > >>> In article <481b47bb.35527...@news.btinternet.com>, > > >>> ?@?.?.invalid writes: > >>> >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley > >>> ><GavinCaw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >>> >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > >>> >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > >>> >>immediately! > > >>> >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit > >>> >season? > > >>> A player normally gets his benefit about ten years after the award of > >>> his county cap. So many will only be in their early to mid-thirties. > > >>> I'm glad to see Salisbury doing well. He may not have done well at Test > >>> level, but he's always struck me as being a trier and a nice bloke. > > >> It was watching Ian Salisbury that prompted me to try leg spin bowling > >> when I stopped keeping wicket regularly, so I am also pleased to see > >> him do well, especially when he plays well for Warwickshire! It > >> didn't last long though, once I learned to bowl a googly, I lost the > >> leg-spinner and couldn't get it back, so I moved onto medium pace > >> inswing until I got a permanent case of the yips that would amaze > >> Scott Boswell and I now bowl off-spin (inspired by Ashley Giles, which > >> suggests that being one of my inspirations is a career limiting > >> move ;o). > > > There is an obvious comment about Giles inspiring anyone to be a spinner.. > > :) > > I'm also surprised Gavin can change arms at this stage of his career. No, but had you seen my inswing bowling towards the end, you might well have suggested it would be worth a try! ;o) |
| 03 May 2008 10:20:07 |
| lk |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
"Gavin Cawley" <GavinCawley@googlemail.com > wrote in message news:69da0100-b214-48df-80b8-537317263cd6@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now > with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up > immediately! Ian Salisbury is the worst test cricketer I have ever seen in 22 years of watching. So bad is Ian Salisbury that he was once barracked by _his own members_. Eng v Sri Lanka Oval 1998. Eng got 450 odd and SL steamed ahead with 650+. As Salisbury had been smashed all over the place, Stewart threw the ball to Ramprakash who bowled a few tidy overs - nothing threatening but at least accurate. One Surrey member shouted out "Are you watching, Salisbury?" Harsh but completely fair - the bloke is garbage. |
| 03 May 2008 21:52:08 |
| Robert Henderson |
| Re: IDK Salisbury |
In message <481b47bb.35527734@news.btinternet.com >, ?@?.?.invalid writes >On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Gavin Cawley ><GavinCawley@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>Been good value for Warwickshire this season, first with the bat, now >>with the ball. We must rush him back into the England set up >>immediately! > >How many English players have appeared in a test after their benefit >season? > Plenty in the past., Max. Here are a few: Hirst, Rhodes (after a second benefit as well I think -0 the Oval 1926 when he was 49 and the Windies 1929/30 when he was 52), Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Trueman, Staham, Laker, Hayward..... RH >max.it -- Robert Henderson Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/ Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk |